Retrofit Problems

Alneyan · #1 July 20th, 2005, 12:57 PM

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Slaughtermeyer said:
If I did not have sufficient resources, should I have gotten a message in the log saying that a retrofit failed due to lack of resources?

Yes, at least under 1.91; I recall some instances of failed retrofitting not giving a message have been fixed by this patch.

Demorve · #2 July 20th, 2005, 08:22 PM

With my retrofit problem The old components were destroyed and the resources were removed from my stockpile. The ships just aren't being repaired. They are at a planet with a shipyard and some space stations created specifically for repairing ships. This goes for ships i want to upgrade as well as ships that have components destroyed in battle.

Slaughtermeyer · #3 July 20th, 2005, 09:15 PM

Demorve, are you trying to repair ships that you've captured from an eliminated empire? Maybe there's a bug that won't allow you to repair captured or traded ships from an eliminated empire.

Demorve · #4 July 20th, 2005, 09:54 PM

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Slaughtermeyer said:
Demorve, are you trying to repair ships that you've captured from an eliminated empire? Maybe there's a bug that won't allow you to repair captured or traded ships from an eliminated empire.

A couple of them were but most of the ships were built by me. This problem happens at every planet or mobile repair ship capable of repair that I have. None of my ships get repaired regardless of how the ships components are destroyed.

Alneyan · #5 July 21st, 2005, 05:17 AM

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Demorve said:
A couple of them were [built by the enemy] but most of the ships were built by me.

You cannot repair technology you don't have, so enemy ships may be impossible to repair, depending on their tech; that would solve at least part of the problem, if it is the case.

Maybe having those impossible to repair ships "contaminate" the whole sector, and prevent any repair from taking place? It sounds unlikely, but who knows? And it is the least unlikely idea I can think of (except the usual "the user is bugged", but I have never been fond of that one).

Demorve · #6 July 21st, 2005, 08:55 PM

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Alneyan said:

You cannot repair technology you don't have, so enemy ships may be impossible to repair, depending on their tech; that would solve at least part of the problem, if it is the case.

Maybe having those impossible to repair ships "contaminate" the whole sector, and prevent any repair from taking place? It sounds unlikely, but who knows? And it is the least unlikely idea I can think of (except the usual "the user is bugged", but I have never been fond of that one).

The Enemy ships that I was repairing were rock colony ships. The only difference between them and my own colony ships was that I had higher tech engines and master computers. In other words I had exceeded all the tech that the enemy had. There is one thing I will mention, I had taken one of the enemy Dreadnoughts and had it analyzed the previous turn. I've just tried analyzing the one colony ship that I was retrofitting to see if that was the problem. Didn't work and I've just tried destroying all the ship acquired when the enemy surrendered but to no avail. It appears to me that this game is toast.

I would try PBW but I just can't devote a consistent amount of time. I usually play maybe 2 - 3 days in a row and then I will be unable to get back to the game for 2 or more weeks. The last time I tried to play a PBW game the game administrator had to force the game to the next turn over 50% of the time because I was unable to play my turn.

Fyron · #7 July 21st, 2005, 09:06 PM

Alneyan said:
Maybe having those impossible to repair ships "contaminate" the whole sector, and prevent any repair from taking place?

Nope. I have performed many repairs of ships in sectors with damaged alien technology present.

Atrocities · #8 July 21st, 2005, 09:08 PM

I have to second this. I have done it as well. Very handy.

Arkcon · #9 July 20th, 2005, 09:55 PM

Well, lets see what's happening with this repair problem. Try what someone else sugested and move all but 1 damaged ship from the sector, and see if any components repair. Then, carefully count the repair capability of the sector and add more ships and see if the sector is repairing enough. That'll help you track down if you have enough repair, if you're trying to repair tech you don't have, and other oddness. And we'll see if its a bug or not.

Demorve · #10 July 20th, 2005, 11:01 PM

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Arkcon said:
Well, lets see what's happening with this repair problem. Try what someone else sugested and move all but 1 damaged ship from the sector, and see if any components repair. Then, carefully count the repair capability of the sector and add more ships and see if the sector is repairing enough. That'll help you track down if you have enough repair, if you're trying to repair tech you don't have, and other oddness. And we'll see if its a bug or not.

I can't move some of the ships because I upgraded them and their engines are being replaced. I'm not sure what you mean by repair capability however a typical repair planet has 3 repair space stations that can repair 24 components each plus a shipyard that can replace 5 components for a total of 77 components repaired a turn. I currently have 3 ships at one of these planets in need of 53 components. Six turns later none of the components have been replaced. I have also tried retrofitting a ship in a different system and again not one component has been replaced. The only thing I haven't tried is building a new shipyard or repair station to see if the game somehow reset itself and doesn't see the existing repair facilities. It does see the shipyard and let's me upgrade but, doesn't repair.