Combat Routines

[Marek_Tucan]

I have a similar question, I have noticed quite often that HEAT rounds get lower (in some cases much lower) penetration than is their OOB value (I have already seen 125mm HEAT hit with pen of 9)... In some cases the things go opposite, the HEAT would without being given the report of "weak point" get a higher pen... What is the mechanism behind this?

[JaM]

My opinion is that they get low becouse sometimes HEAT warheadhas problems to detonate properly, so penetrating plasma is not so strong.
"Weak point" is very good idea. There is not a tank that has solid protection over complete frontal arc. There are allways some spots whitch are weaker - mantlet,upper front turret, lower hull etc... Game dont have mechanism to simulate those parts of tank profile.So there is allways good chance to hit something that is not so good armored than rest of the turret or hull.

[Marek_Tucan]

In one of my few PBEM games I got a pointblank combat between T-'s and it seemed that both sides have already depleted their HEAT stock... So it was purely a matter of weak points...

Got there one of my T's hit in the front turret by a mm AP (pen IIRC), that got another of weak point... The tank somehow managed to survive But a bit suppressed

[Weasel]

I don't know, but there has to be something wrong with the M113s for sure. I have bounced so many rounds off those things now from aircraft that I can't even keep track anymore. Just my last turn I had 3 fighter bombers come in and blast away at two M113s. Lots of bouncing rounds but no kills what so ever. The M113s are just not that tough!

[DRG]

Weasel said:
I don't know, but there has to be something wrong with the M113s for sure. I have bounced so many rounds off those things now from aircraft that I can't even keep track anymore. Just my last turn I had 3 fighter bombers come in and blast away at two M113s. Lots of bouncing rounds but no kills what so ever. The M113s are just not that tough!

WHICH M113's?? WHICH NATION?? I don't read minds. If I could I'd be doing something else with my time. If you don't provide complete information I cannot help you. There are DOZENS of M113's in the OOB's in DOZENS of nations. Are you saying EVERY one of them are too hard to kill?? Is it just M113's or other APC's as well?? .Most M113's I see are 1 on top, a couple have 2. Not exactly wonder weapons but I have no idea which one's you were firing at from which nation and which year ........for all I know someone slipped up and entered 11 instead of 1 for top armour. It's been known to happen.

A little hard info goes a long way....

Knowing WHICH nations aircraft were doing the shooting and which aircraft would be helpful as well.

Don