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[Backis]

Well, it does have a precursor charge...

No BILL version is supposed to be used in a direct attack profile against armour, but there its an option for use against soft targets such as trucks or semi-hardened types like buildings.

Irrelevant in this case though... it should be TA, nothing else.

[JohnT]

Backis said:
Well, it does have a precursor charge...

Irrelevant in this case though... it should be TA, nothing else.

Only IF the game had supported multi-Charge- Top attack.

Making it top-attack will reduce the effectiveness against ERA,

pick one representation of reality


Cheers
/John T.

[JaM]

I think that all Top attack ATGMs are stated as multicharge in game

[Backis]

Making it a "dual warhead" will greatly reduce its effectiveness for frontal shots against ALL targets, especially unless you fuddle the penetration values and turn it into "Super-ATGM"...

And even if we gave it fantasy values (lets say 200 to circumvent frontal HEAT protection on a MBT) high-angle induced attacks would still be defeated by armour in a way it wouldn't against a TA attack...

Nope, I'd set it as TA nad continue to ***** for either a new weapon type (TA DW) or to let all TA weapons use the DW characteristic as per default (how many non-DW TA's are there out there?).

JaM wrote
I think that all Top attack ATGMs are stated as multicharge in game

Quick check in the US OOB

TOW-2=top attack
TOW-2B=top attack
Javelin=top attack

So I'm thinking not really.

[niklas627]

Hi all,

I have done a obat66 on sweden.

Corected lots of errors. It has also got the tgb-13 tgb-11, and so on.
There is also lots of new pictures to my obat, abot 200.

ok, there is still some errors in the obat.

if there some one who whant it contact me on:

niklas627@yahoo.se


cheers/
niklas

[pdoktar]

TOW-2 should not be top-attack. Only TOW-2B.

[niklas627]

That's correct. The TOW-2 is not a top attack system.

As far as I know the Swedish army does not have TOW-2B.

And with self experience with the TOW system is it almost impossibly to move with 2 men and have also 2 missiles. Maybe infantry teams with 4 men with 2 missiles each is more correctly.

More about the TOW follow this link:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/tow/

[niklas627]

BILL-2 is also a top attack system, like BILL-1

The deferens is that the BILL-1 is gong 80cm above the "sight line" and have attack system which is directed 45' down. BILL-2 is flying 2m above the "sight line" and has got a multiple charge. The charges are directed ~90'.

More about the BILL-1 is that Bofors has shooting through 1m steel.

When I was at Kråksskjutfält we did shooting through a Strv-74. The hit was on the back of the tank, going through the engine and out on the bottom.


cheers
/niklas

[Marcello]

IIRC, in the game Top attack ATGMs,class 20, are assumed to be multicharge weapons as well,which makes sense to me.
At any rate those TOW-2Bs go throught the top ERA of my fictional MBTs as if it was not even there...