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July 26th, 2005, 07:47 PM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
I am doing this as it seems like a good idea. I ran a test against the computer AI and what I noticed is that the hits are realistic when playing the AI; 25% misses 75% of the time etc. In a PBEM game I have only been able to log 17 shots so far, but this is what I have:
4% 1H (HIT)
8% 1H
22% 1H
24% 3H
25% 3H
30% 2H
31% 1M (MISS)
33% 1M
34% 1H
35% 1H
53% 1H
Not too many misses after 17 shots is there? I will keep updating this. For this experiment I am only counting main guns, missiles, and a/c shots.
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August 10th, 2005, 10:35 PM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
Heh heh if you want to watch the computer "get stuck" on low to hit numbers play the second campaigne where you have to make a river crossing and kill tons of tanks on the the other side after you have over come the "buried tanks" on the shore line and all the mines. I have played this one twice and every time I play the AI gets consistant hits and kills at anywhere from 3% to not more than 30% chance to hit. It ALWAYS gets low to hit kills on "key" equipment LOL this has been the rap of Steel Panthers since it first came out 10 years ago and not much has changed. Air Power is also poorly done "friendly fire" is the rule NOT the exception in this game (unless of course the AI is using it then it seems to behave correctly). I have had friendly aircraft divert 15 hexes to hit my own troops.
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August 11th, 2005, 09:56 AM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
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Heh heh if you want to watch the computer "get stuck" on low to hit numbers play the second campaigne where you have to make a river crossing and kill tons of tanks on the the other side after you have over come the "buried tanks" on the shore line and all the mines. I have played this one twice and every time I play the AI gets consistant hits and kills at anywhere from 3% to not more than 30% chance to hit. It ALWAYS gets low to hit kills on "key" equipment LOL this has been the rap of Steel Panthers since it first came out 10 years ago and not much has changed. Air Power is also poorly done "friendly fire" is the rule NOT the exception in this game (unless of course the AI is using it then it seems to behave correctly). I have had friendly aircraft divert 15 hexes to hit my own troops.
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Then you really do not have a clue how to play this game. I suspect the AI beats you a lot. It's more than obvious from the posts you've been making. I have seen this complaint before and surprise, surprise when I call in an airstike it hit's the target I aim at because I target it correctly. Use the HQ or a FO, don't bring the strike in over terrain that obscures the target on the aircrafts run in and DO NOT target the aircrafts path through smoke or through enemy AA or SAMS as that throws off the aim as well. I almost NEVER get a blue on blue targeting airstrikes and anyone who does simple isn'ts doing it correctly. As for your allegation that the AI gets higher to hit % than the human play it is, to be blunt, total crap. There it N*O*T* *H* I* N* G in the code that gives the AI ANY kind of advantage over the human player like that.
You don't like the game and it seems you've had a "problem" with SP since it was released and you don't seem to enjoy any kind of challenging scenario or campaign so I really wonder why you bother
Don
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August 11th, 2005, 12:45 PM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
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BigJim said:
Heh heh if you want to watch the computer "get stuck" on low to hit numbers play the second campaigne where you have to make a river crossing and kill tons of tanks on the the other side after you have over come the "buried tanks" on the shore line and all the mines. I have played this one twice and every time I play the AI gets consistant hits and kills at anywhere from 3% to not more than 30% chance to hit. It ALWAYS gets low to hit kills on "key" equipment LOL this has been the rap of Steel Panthers since it first came out 10 years ago and not much has changed. Air Power is also poorly done "friendly fire" is the rule NOT the exception in this game (unless of course the AI is using it then it seems to behave correctly). I have had friendly aircraft divert 15 hexes to hit my own troops.
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Big Jim The Air Force just hates you and that is why you get bombed
Like Don said, you just need to target correctly and follow the advice he gave you. Have found that out several years ago.
Forget once recently and go bombed by a B-52 and that hurt 
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August 11th, 2005, 02:25 PM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
Hey Don, what do you mean by "I almost NEVER get a blue on blue targeting airstrikes and anyone who does simple isn'ts doing it correctly"
By "blue on blue" you mean aircraft hitting targets from the same team or what?
I really don´t understand what BigJim means, I´ve been playing this game for nearly 3 months now since I begin with the dos V (I´m such a rookie) and I use air support a lot and so far I haven´t experience friendly aircraft fire.
By the way, I got my CD 3 days ago and everything is running correctly down here..great game¡¡¡, it is all I play. Congratulations.
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August 11th, 2005, 04:52 PM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
Blue on blue is synonymous of friendly fire. In this case it is intended when your aircraft come in and strafe and bomb your own units.
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August 27th, 2005, 03:04 AM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
Yes, Blue on Blue is a Friendly Fire and I got it in my long time SP playing just VERY few times. I take care after my first amicide incident when back in good old SP1 a Thunderbolt hit Sherman with 5inch rockets. The Sherman survived but since that time I take care.
OTOH I have seen many friendly fire incident on AI side, recenty in a large battle Czechoslovakia-Egypt in 1986 IIRC, Egypt got 8 F-16's, 3 of them have attacked one T-72 (and only suppressed it), 2 others have attacked other T-72 (and suppressed it), one attacked Egyptian T-62 (and missed), other two went massacring Egyptian APC's 
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August 27th, 2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: winMBT low percentile hits
yup, the AI also does friendly fire, i play against soviets and it seems they have enough troops to waste, since their arty mostly targets portions of own troops hehe.
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