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		That's too bad.  But maybe it will help get the next generation of space craft out just a little bit faster... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Imho there are two solutions for this problem, one might be possible with the current shuttle design but might be impossible due to physics, the second is for the next shuttle design. 
 
First the maybe now possible one: why not install a protective jacket around the heatshield of the shuttle ? it doesnt need it when lifting off, only when coming down. 
 
Second, make it so that in the next shuttle the fuel tanks and booster rockets are on the less vulnerable side, this should be the backside for the current space shuttle, or maybe even the sides. 
 
both solutions however are quite expansive I think so it'll be for the next shuttle. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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Imho there are two solutions for this problem, one might be possible with the current shuttle design but might be impossible due to physics, the second is for the next shuttle design. 
 
First the maybe now possible one: why not install a protective jacket around the heatshield of the shuttle ? it doesnt need it when lifting off, only when coming down. 
 
Second, make it so that in the next shuttle the fuel tanks and booster rockets are on the less vulnerable side, this should be the backside for the current space shuttle, or maybe even the sides. 
 
both solutions however are quite expansive I think so it'll be for the next shuttle.  
			
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 For the 'next generation' they should  finish the development of the system rather than leave it as a half-baked hack/kludge. You do know that the shuttle was supposed to have a flying 'lifter' to carry it (like the 747 transporter does but more gracefully) to 50,000 feet or so and then launch from there? The current system with the external tank and the boosters is a kludge because they couldn't get the money to complete the original design.  That is the real problem. They are using the shuttle in a way it was not intended/designed for.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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		That assumes they get a budget to do this. Bear in mind this isn't the amount of money they ask for, it's the amount they'll need. 
 
Major engineering projects do not come in on-spec, on time and on budget. Ever. You might get one, maybe, if your lucky and the project isn't ambitious, you'll get two. But never all three. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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