War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)

[Dragonlord]

It is horrible. I live about a mile from the WTC in New York, just across the river in Jersey. People are on the streets, everybody is talking and coming together in the face of disaster. I literally saw the second WTC tower collapse in front of my eyes. CNN reports people jumping off the building (110 stories) right before the collapse. All airports in the US are closed for the first time since WW II.
All phone circuits are overloaded. A buddy of mine works in the WTC, I sure hope he was no there this morning, I can't get through over the phone.
Primary suspect is the Osama bin Laden group at the moment.
Will keep you posted.

[Tampa_Gamer]

This brings into new light a comment from one of the original "band of brothers" that aired on HBO on Sunday. The intervieweee said that it is hard for modern day U.S. citizens to understand how they felt after Pearl Habor. Well, I fear the death toll will rise beyond 2,400 (Peal Harbor) today in the U.S. ..and words cannot express what I feel right now...

[Puke]

i would not be to concerned dogscoff, i have not heard any major religions refering to the UK as the 'great satan' lately, nor have i noticed any propensity to prefer military targets.


[This message has been edited by Puke (edited 11 September 2001).]

[Phoenix-D]

read this over at DSC first.. I can't get to any news sites, so I just hoped it was a real sick joke.

then I turned on the TV. Well, it's still really sick all right.

Phoenix-D

[Puke]

quote:

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Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:
Well, I fear the death toll will rise beyond 2,400 (Peal Harbor) today in the U.S. ..and words cannot express what I feel right now...

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if you will pardon the humor at this grim time, its not exactly the same now. now, we are the MEE in real life. the hatred of every minority group in the world is directed at our nation, and while we provide most of the food exported to those countries, their people engineer private wars against us. we can not direct our hatred at any one nation, because nations do not oppose us. we can not pin down an easy target, because it is a decentralized foe who hates us not for economic or industrial reasons, but for philosophical ones.

I dare say, what i am most in wonder about is what this will cause our war against terrorist states to evolve into. will our tactics change? will our culture change? will we be forced to become the monsters that the world sees us as?

[dogscoff]

True enough, Puke. I doubt I'm in danger but this is enough to make anyone edgy.

That said those statments are often directed to "The West" rather than the US specifically. It is wrong to jump to conclusions, but it's hard to imagine anyone else capable, other than these (supposedly) muslim extremists. Who else has suicide attacks as a trademark? Who else has such a hate-on for the US? Ex Soviets? Doubt it, they have enough problems. Anti- capitalists don't have the resources and the vast majority of that movement is peaceful.

I really hope George Dubbya's response will be controlled and informed. I'm not in the mood for a World War.

(BTW, the word "supposedly" was for "muslim", not "extremist." I don't think anyone can doubt that this is extreme.)

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[LazarusLong42]

Dogscoff:

I've heard reports they're closing down central London as a precaution. Since you're UK, can you confirm that?

The carbomb at the State Dept. was a false report, as apparently were any reports of White House or Capital attacks. The Pentagon attack seems to have been a small commuter plane into the southern face--which has since collapsed.

There are still airplanes missing and/or unaccounted for. (One may have just landed in Cleveland).

Much of the US is locking down. I live near Detroit, right on the border with Canada, which has now closed down. Federal buildings are either closed or on heavy alert, everywhere. The Sears Tower, I'm told, has been evacuated, as I'm sure are many other large targets.

In other words, no one knows for certain what's going on. Lovely.

Puke, you're right. We are the MEE.

LL