some mod questions from a newbie

[Dakaar]

Thanks for the fast answers Turin ) I was affraid what most answers would be from my reading though.

The mercenaries possibilities sound workable though, if i just changed other units as appropriate so that they are all unique to them if/where needed.

I looked on a util that displayed units in game, displays 1100 units including special heros, but none of the mercenary commanders are listed there, i think it was just a listing of all recruitable/summoned units. Is there anywhere to get a listing with the unit numbers for the unique mercenary troops and commanders?

[Turin]

most mercenary commanders and troops aren´t unique. For example bureks city guard comes with militia, which are monsterid 18. that´s the same id as the militia you can recruit in several independant provinces.

I think the only two exceptions are the eternal knights(which only appear guarding a unique site elsewhere in the game) and the mercenary band, that actually has it in their description that they are mercs.

[Dakaar]

ahh i see, so i can change the relevant troops/commanders that make up the mercenary by changing the unit, but the mercenaries are set and would still be the same, or am i totally not following heh

like i could change the archers and commander unit used for the far strikers mercenery, but they would still show up as the far strikers, i couldnt alter them to say Paladins of Alyzia and change the units to a group of mounted paladins (for example)

Also is there a complete list of mercenaries anywhere (preferably with what unit numbers comprise them) as theres a lot of units to dig through and a lot of mercenaries to check to find which ones they use =p

[Endoperez]

If you changed Farstrikers' longbowmen into Paladins of Alyzia, you would have provinces from which you can recruit Knights and Paladins of Alyzia (usually Paladins and Longbowmen).

I think I have seen mercenaries listed on one unit list or another, possibly Edi's. However, it might have just listed Eternal Knights and the mercenaries armed with spear/shield, sword/shield and flail/shield.


A member of this forum by the name of Paladin is developing a program that will enable many more modding capabilities. Try to find his posts. He has released a demo which does nothing but allows one to see the user interface, and the fact that the program lists every unit, magic site, item and more. I don't think he mentioned events or mercenaries as things his program can change, but spell and item names, as well as other characteristics, were in the list...

[Dakaar]

ahh great thanks ill look for his posts that sounds useful )

For the example i gave what i would have done there would be to remove the unit the mercenary uses from other places in the game, supstituting in a different one and altering the one used by the mercenery to what i wanted, the problem is from what i understand from turin is the mercenaries i alterered would still show up listed as the farstrikers, i couldnt change them to be called the paladins of Alyzia for example.

[Endoperez]

That is true, but as you cannot mod what units are recruitable from spesific poptype (independent types, including kngihts & longbowmen), you would have to remove every knight&longbow province...

There are still few mercenaries you can change, Brave Breakers and all those dark-brown/black colored mercenaries.