obat44 - West Germany

[Alpha]

>>>>> KSK commandos: are you sure that would be useful in the game? heavy enough assets for conventional warfare?

mhh.. other nations also have commando troops in oob. like russian speznas, SAS etc...

>>>>>e) Bunkerfaust: confirmation about it being in service in the BW?

i read a article in the web somewhere. this is just a pz. faust3 with special warhead for bunkerbusting. so only the name and warhead must be changed i guess.

>>>f) Fliegerfaust 2 = FIM-92 Stinger. Just the same, check the official webpage. Maybe the name should be changed to "Fliegerfaust 2" for the weapon or unit, if it is the official name from now on. First time I hear it though!

okay, then i think the fliegerfaust 1 must be the redeye. fliegerfaust is def. the "off. name" since before 2 weeks or so i was at luftwaffe show where they had this weapon.

>>>>h) planned, should check the service date. BTW, no other useable Wiesel II versions in service, only SAM, engineer recon and ambulance AFAIK.

well any knowledgeable person could check when it could be becoming serviceable and add it.

>>>>And are you sure that the "border section" of the game is what you think it is? Apparently the only link with the BGS is a possible faraway filiation. The Bundeswehr was founded in 1955, right? So any units before are to be considered out of any BW context, any current context actually.

mhh.. don´t know. it is also not that important. best would be to delete the border section at all, since it gives not much more value or differences to normal light infantry.


so if any person with more time to research the stuff reads this, would be fine. i will make 3-4 changes to my oob and post it here so everyone can use this as a base.

i also think there should be a special air assault ( or sumthing like that ) section that fit´s in wiesel apc....

thanx....for contribution.

[Alpha]

http://www.panzerbaer.de/archiv/seite_f.htm

early 50ties bundesgrenzschutz soldiers....

http://www.panzerbaer.de/archiv/bw_f...ewe_2004-a.htm

these some exercise photos from 2004.

excellent site + pics IMHO.

[Alpha]

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[DRG]

How long was the M8 in west German service??

Don

[Alpha]

ca. 1960 i think, but not bundeswehr but bundesgrenzschutz ( BGS )

[DRG]

Alpha said:
ca. 1960 i think, but not bundeswehr but bundesgrenzschutz ( BGS )

so the M8 pictured in http://www.panzerbaer.de/archiv/seite_f.htm
was never used by West German military units only Police?

Don

[Alpha]

think so, but mind you BGS is paramilitary. they also were tasked in wartimes with semi military tasks. also in conflict WP - NATO they would be one of the first seeing the russians....

AFAIK the BW used M41 buldog as recon tank in the early times, than hotchkiss.