Def and Prot

Oversway · #1 August 18th, 2005, 11:09 AM

Vans have glamour, which is plus 4 defense. Mounted troops get the advantage that the enc penalty for armor doesn't count. Not sure about the tower shield for archmage... maybe hes not correctly set as mounted?

I thought invulnerability was deliberately done that way.

Endoperez · #2 August 18th, 2005, 12:21 PM

I think mounted units do get a defence bonus. It mighn't be hard-coded, or could just be the def penalty of armor being removed.

Turin · #3 August 18th, 2005, 12:57 PM

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Oversway said:
Vans have glamour, which is plus 4 defense. Mounted troops get the advantage that the enc penalty for armor doesn't count. Not sure about the tower shield for archmage... maybe hes not correctly set as mounted?

I thought invulnerability was deliberately done that way.

part of that is incorrect.
All mounted troops get a bonus of +3 def. glamour doesn�t alter defense in any way. The no encumbrance part is correct for melee purposes, it still factors in when casting spells.

Endoperez · #4 August 18th, 2005, 12:59 PM

The Vanir have Glamour (they can't be seen on army reports), but they also have the Mirror Image-like ability that does add to defence before it is disspelled. I don't remember if that shows up outside battle.

Turin · #5 August 18th, 2005, 01:05 PM

Well it doesn�t add to the defence stat, it just is a free mirror image spell at the start of the battle. The higher your air magic, the more images you get.

Oversway · #6 August 18th, 2005, 02:18 PM

My mistake. I misremembered the thread "Little question about Defense rating".

magnate · #7 August 18th, 2005, 02:50 PM

Hmm. That thread is here http://tinyurl.com/bp99k

What does Kristoffer mean by the last part of "so now every mounted [unit] gets +3 and have their armor defense subtraction added"?

He can't mean that mounted units ignore armour penalties for defence, because they don't (the van, vanherse and vanjarl all get -1 from the chain cuirass). Perhaps he means that (unlike in Dom1) mounted units DO now suffer the encumbrance penalties of heavy armour. Will have to test this.

Does anyone know if this +3 applies to ALL mounted units (spider riders, wolf rider, etc.)?

Also, still hoping someone can explain why Invulnerability works differently to Ironskin ...

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Oversway · #8 August 18th, 2005, 04:07 PM

My guess is any unit with the #mounted attribute gets the penalties.

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Also, still hoping someone can explain why Invulnerability works differently to Ironskin ...

I think it is to make it harder to get protection too much higher than 30.