Gas Prices

[Atrocities]

Yes, the high prices are having an environmental effect and that is one of the only good things about this.

Ok here's the problem now. Fewer people are buying gas now, so many states are loosing tax revenue so in response they are going to hike their gas tax to compensate for lost revenue. [shaking head] It figures.

[Atrocities]

Here is a link to the Hawaii state gas cap law I mentioned.
Gas Cap Law

[Kamog]

Today I filled up the car and the price was $1.188 per liter! The gas prices keep going up higher and higher!

[Xrati]

Get used to it! The oil companies now know that we will pay this kind of money for gas. They will keep the prices up there until there is no more oil on this planet to sell us. I find it funny how they still say that alcohol is still to expensive as a gas substitute. How high do gas prices have to go before we can get a cheap and readily available alternate source?
As long as we keep using oil products the demand will always exceed the supply. We need more refineries! We have more then enough oil, but if you can't refine it, it will never get to market. The oil companies have used this to keep their price up there and now with the loss of the Gulf States refining we have a major shortage because companies wanted to keep supply to the point of maximizing their profits. It's backfired and people are pissed. NOW people will demand that the oil companies account for themselves and we will all be waiting for the next quarterly statements, where their profits will be way up there despite new and replaced equipment they will have to replace from the hurricane.

[El_Phil]

1. Oil Company. Company. It's their job to make money, it's like complaining about a cow eating grass.
2. I'll put money that their profits will be up. And that most of that will NOT be from petrol, it's the other uses of oil that make money, petrol is a minor part of their trade.

[Xrati]

El_Phil said:
1. Oil Company. Company. It's their job to make money, it's like complaining about a cow eating grass.
2. I'll put money that their profits will be up. And that most of that will NOT be from petrol, it's the other uses of oil that make money, petrol is a minor part of their trade.

1. How much profit IS ENOUGH? Where should we be looking at profit versus being taken to the cleaners. All companies are in business to make money, I understand that part. Most companies have competition within their product line. Wouldn't it be nice to have an alternate fuel source for them to compete with? Most companies now operate as borderline monopolies. They buy out their closest competitors and leave the weakest of their competition to survive.

2. All oil products must still be refined into their final state. Oil, gas, tar, plastics, what ever the final product is, it must be refined! We should be experiencing a shortage of plastic shortly! I guess all those "blacktop" road projects will be at risk too!

[El_Phil]

Buy a diesel car or a hybrid. Get a hydrogen cell conversion done on your own car. There's nothing stoping you doing those things. There's alternatives. But the key thing is: They aren't as good or are more expensive.

Refining is different for the various products, the huge amount of petrol that some countries **cough The US cough** use means that many refineries are dedicated just to petrol, and indeed use various fractions of the oil that could very easily be made into other products with far less work. Oh and did you miss my post a while back? The price of DVD-Rs and other high grade plastic items is going up, more than it should but it is.

When a plastic goes from very cheap to just cheap it doesn't make much difference to the final price, unless the finished product is all plastic and is cheap itself. For almost everything else the plastic is such a tiny amount of the total cost that the price could go up an order of magnitude and many firms wouldn't notice.