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September 2nd, 2005, 10:11 AM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
well i know that leo powerpack can be changed very fast and also i believe his engine can be fueled with almosst everything.....i only wonder what are the advantages of the russian stuff against western ones ? it was always said that the maintenance and handling of eastern stuff is much better. that was one of the arguments against more expensive western (german) equipment compared to russian equipment ?
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September 2nd, 2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
Could be that maintenance and general use of western (German) equipment is more expensive, particularly for people used to Russian stuff.
Actually I heard that the Romanian army, which recieved a batch of some dozens of Gepard SPAAGs, had such a hard time and spent so much money running these that they refused a subsequent offer for a batch of Leopard2A4.
Has anyone better info on this?
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September 2nd, 2005, 11:06 AM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
i really wonder why we give away all the gepards and leos ?
why don´t we "mothball" them ?
who knows if we need them again, the world is not
a save place these days.
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September 2nd, 2005, 12:13 PM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
Well, poland recived the leos for a 10BKPanc - 10th armored cavalry brigade (do not moistake with US Armored Cav - ours is tank - only) because this unit is designated to be fully compatibile (? - not sure i'ts a right word, but you get the meaning  ) with other NATO units.
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September 2nd, 2005, 01:35 PM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
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i really wonder why we give away all the gepards and leos ?
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Alpha, you give them away because it is the cheapest way. It can even bring you money back!
I don't know how the people concerned deal these things but I'm sure that maintenance, spares, technical assistance, formation and so on are "given away" as well... See my point?
Anyway it is always costlier to have some guys on duty guarding the mothballs and some others dusting them off form time to time, plus the paperwork, than shoving off the damn things for someone else to care!
Actually, the world may be no safe place, but you can consider (at least when you live in Germany, in some other places you can't) that it can be made somewhat safer when you have enough money.
Sorry for the off-topic digression, everyone! 
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September 2nd, 2005, 02:18 PM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
1. i have only few money...
2. who knows what happens in the future... how says
( for example ) the russians are satisfied with their
current state ? it also seems they get friendly with china.
i may come some day we could need some more military stuff.
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September 3rd, 2005, 04:48 AM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
Yeah... but remember what country russians have to pass if they want to attack you...? Yup. Poland  . And its lot better for Germany if the Red Bear would be stopped or at least slowed down seriously in Poland - so there. You should care for polish military - it benefits both sides... unless you think that we would be attacking you, or you want to attack us again  .
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September 9th, 2005, 06:24 PM
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September 10th, 2005, 04:41 AM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
Well... Great job! You are The Man. I will see to it... But, i can't promise that i will do it fast, because i got a lot of work right now and don't have to time much time for my pc.. [ bezrobocie mialo swoje zalety...  . ]
Too bad that great oob management system in SPMBT is not usable for custom shp files...
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September 11th, 2005, 07:56 PM
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Re: Obat002 Poland
I post your OOB but with modified some pictures to more accuracy for polish army. This all Lbm's what I used are included in game. So I don't add my own Lbm's.
units where I change pictures
013 T34/76 M1943
040 Loara SPAAG
426 Antonov An-26
427 Antonov An-26
952 Yak 9M
127 Yak 3
128 Yak 9M
129 Yak 9W
510 82mm Mortar Sec
511 82mm Mortar Sec
530 Observer Team
304 Cavalry Section
305 Cavalry Section
370 PTRD ATR Team
038 2S7 Pion
401 BA-64
029 ASU-85
052 BRDM-1
411 BRDM-1
054 OT-62
001 PT-76
019 PT-76
702 Marynarka PT-76
414 JS-II
573 Spotter A/C
429 Gaz 69u
432 Gaz Jeep
920 Tarpan Honker
836 Honker Skorpion
880 BRDM-2 Szakal+
879 BRDM-2 Szakal
876 and 875 BRDM-2 Zbik-A
576 and 575 BRDM-2B ZbikB
118 and 119 and 121 Mi-8
044 and 610 and 843 and SA-8
706 PTS-M
067 Medium Truck
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