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Old September 4th, 2005, 08:13 PM
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Me again, with Questions this time.

Looking at the challenger 2, and I was wondering where the version with the add on armour is?

My other Question is concerning the Vickers HMG. It's only got a HEK of 5, the Same as a Bren gun, and a Vickers has surely more firepower. There was one account where one gun managed to fire 5 Million rounds of .303 non-stop..
What "uparmoured challenger 2". Never heard of it. Cites? (UK MoD, Vickers etc ??). Pictures?. Stats?. Numbers?. Local one-off engineering job or official Mod programme?.

Or - are you getting confused with the uparmoured CR1 (Challenger 1+ in the OOB) as used in Operation Granby ?.


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Very big photo, from the MOD site.
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/i..._basrah_hr.jpg

Up Armoured panels on the front and side hulls.
BTW: Last time we had a vechicle ID lesson I out socred everyone else... I Like my tanks..


Also are you going to include the very first few CR1 with a 50 cal Coax instead of the Electronic Bullet Chewing box? (IIRC it also had no TI either)
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Nice picture of what could be any old C2, really. At any rate, it looks just like another CR2 to me.

Cites on the mods, number in service, what the mods were etc?. Is it a local to theatre thing?. i.e. any hard information?.

The pre/early-production CR1 will not be done - too few and too short an availibility to worry about.

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Basic Chally 2.


Chally 2 with add on.


If you look along the side of the hull and the front of the hull, you'll see boxes, like the CR1 add on armour.

What I know so far... Give me a couple of days and more details might be following, I've got some tankers to ask.

Of course the exact details may well be restricted..

Those where fitted to all CR2 on Op Telic. From the Explanation I've heard from a single source is that it's added only in the desert, as there is less terrain to hide behind, unlike Europe where it's easier to stay hull down. How true that is I don't know.

Here we see an SFOR CR2 without the add on armour.
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