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Old September 8th, 2005, 01:33 AM
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Screw riding a Horse, the Democrats would eat you alive on environmental impact fees, and find a way to tax you right off the saddle.
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When you look at the price of a hybrid vehicle compared to the price on an equivalent conventional vehicle, it still may not make good economical sense to buy the hybrid. You save on gas, but for the average driver, it will take many years for those savings to add up to make the hybrid worthwhile. By the time the extra cost of the hybrid pays for itself, the battery may wear out. Like all batteries, there's a limited number of recharge / discharge cycles that it is good for before it degrades and need to be replaced. It will probably be expensive to replace the battery if it fails after the warranty expires. But if gas prices keep going up like they have been recently, hybrids will become increasingly attractive.
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Old September 8th, 2005, 08:21 AM
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You know I could have predicted AT would say that. Not to say your occasionaly predictable, but Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming.
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You know I could have predicted AT would say that. Not to say your occasionaly predictable, but Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming.
Ok, so its a bad joke. My bad. I was watching the West Wing and they had an episode about something, and one of the characters made the comment about adding a $3.00 per gallon tax on gas to force people into finding alterative mobility sources and it just rang out to me... more TAX revenue, of course!
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Hey guys, lets try to have fewer personal attacks and insults and more rational debate... makes for a much nicer place.
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I always knew that there was something about watching those horse drawn Amish carts that made me wonder if they had a better idea of what life should be!

Now that prices are going down again, it only took a 5% reduction in usage to get them sliding. Just think of what would happen if everyone just stopped for a week or two and didn't fill up. I wonder how far the price would slide?
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I always knew that there was something about watching those horse drawn Amish carts that made me wonder if they had a better idea of what life should be!

Now that prices are going down again, it only took a 5% reduction in usage to get them sliding. Just think of what would happen if everyone just stopped for a week or two and didn't fill up. I wonder how far the price would slide?
Yeah, they have the right idea. Horse are not only 'organicly' fueled and so easy to maintain, they make their own replacements!
And they have more uses than just transportation:


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...e/farm_scene_1

Horse-and-Plow Farming Making a Comeback

Ron VanGrunsven farms about 50 acres with horses near Council, Idaho, and has used horses for years there and in Oregon's Willamette Valley.

"They're more economical," he said. "They raise their own replacements, you can train them yourself and raise their feed."

A mare can produce a foal every year or so, and Miller says that, if properly trained, one can bring about $2,000 after two years.

A plow horse usually lasts 16 or 18 years, Miller said. He said he looks after his stable of nine carefully and veterinarian bills rarely total $200 a year.

VanGrunsven said a two-horse team and a farmer can plow about an acre and a half a day if the ground is right and that an acre usually produces more than enough hay to feed a horse for a year.
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