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 ME was, for me, a piece of trash.  Crashed constantly.  Now XP...works great for me, has never (that I can remember) crashed on me, and I've never had a security breach that I know of.  Then again, I keep the antivirus up to date, don't open emails and/or attachments that I dont' know who they're from, have firewalls installed, etc.  Which, as other's have said, is plenty used in conjunction with XP.
 People hate MS because people hate success.  That's just how the human psyche works it seems.  He's successful, and we want to be as successful as he is, but can't be, so we'll hate him instead.
 
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				September 14th, 2005, 11:19 AM
			
			
			
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		| Renegade 13 said: People hate MS because people hate success.  That's just how the human psyche works it seems.  He's successful, and we want to be as successful as he is, but can't be, so we'll hate him instead.
 
 |  I don't hate success, I just dislike seeing cheaters prosper. He's broken many laws and gotten a minor slap on the wrist, it is annoying.
 
However Windows is still better than the competiton, no-one has produced anything better for my gaming needs. Yes Bill has done everything in his power to stifle and stop any competition, but that's the world. If he'd done it fairly I wouldn't mind.
 
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 I'm all with Thermodyne on this topic. Can't recall where the comment came from but it was said years ago that Computer are NOT ready for the general public to use, but without the general public using them, they never will be. I see this time period as the same as when you had to crank your phone to get an operator, then tell them who you wanted to call, they 'rang' the exchange with a certain coded ring (2 short, 1 long for instance) and everyone's phone would ring. Then you had to hope that the correct person you were calling picks up their phone and not their neighbor.
 It's all growing pains. IMO, it will be a while yet before we've got the idiot proof computer but it took 25-30 years to get the idiot proof phone.
 
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 Phones can be ruined my idiots? That, I have to see for myself.
 Why would I only play se4? Sure, it runs on other systems with emulators... But is that all to life? Wine would have a fit if it tried running Battlefield 2, much less all these other games I have. Star Wars Galaxies, Planetside, some other games I'm sure... Windows is simply the best OS for the job of playing games.
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		| NullAshton said: Phones can be ruined my idiots? That, I have to see for myself.
 
 Why would I only play se4? Sure, it runs on other systems with emulators... But is that all to life? Wine would have a fit if it tried running Battlefield 2, much less all these other games I have. Star Wars Galaxies, Planetside, some other games I'm sure... Windows is simply the best OS for the job of playing games.
 
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		| NullAshton said: See? Most of the games I play won't work on linux.
 
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		| NullAshton said: Windows is simply the best OS for the job of playing games.
 
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 I agree heartily with a lot of that Thermo, but not all, especially one part.  I bet there were people from a bunch of different countries who brought the world the PC, internet, and good OS.  For instance, I bet there've been a whole lot of Canadians who worked in the US to help bring the PC, internet, and good OS     So don't be so hasty to cut us out!    
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		| Renegade 13 said: I agree heartily Thermo, except for one part.  I bet there were people from a bunch of different countries who brought the world the PC, internet, and good OS.  For instance, I bet there've been a whole lot of Canadians who worked in the US to help bring the PC, internet, and good OS
  So don't be so hasty to cut us out!   
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 Ah well, guess I've showed my ignorance again! 
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