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September 21st, 2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
Centaurs vs Vans : both beasties look relatively alike, in this setup I suppose the centaur domination was mainly due to the much better centaurs'Bless effect.
I've found E9 blessed Vans to be pretty good, and can't see another reason to their utter defeat..
As for fighting SC AD/ID, best bet is to either have some yourself, or some Elem Queenie. BL are clearly inferior, but maybe with top equipment and superior number they can kill one AD/ID.
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September 21st, 2005, 11:27 AM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
hey, if we're doing a fair fight, give the vans F9W9 
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September 21st, 2005, 11:41 AM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
for a sc killed try something with winged shoes + gate cleaver+(if it can regenerate ) lycan amulet and if it cant then just boost its def and if needed attack and if his troops have low morale you could add a horror helmet or something like that
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September 21st, 2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
Who said anything about a fair fight? It's true that I didn't mention the Arch Devil, and I think GrayZ's right, most of the 18 dead centaurs were the AD, and he might have won the battle if the vans' commander hadn't died.
I also didn't mention the three pans, two shamen, illusionist, hydromancer, medusa and sundry other mages who did quite a good job tying up some of the vans ...
So it wasn't quite as clear a contest as I made out, but I was pretty stunned how much better the E9N9 centaurs were than the multi-blessed vans, even without the mages' help.
Now, GrayZ, go start your own thread about how to deal with SCs - or read old ones, there are tons on here. One tip someone gave me is that google is actually better at searching this board than the in-built Search function ...
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September 21st, 2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
P.S. Griffin - the berserk E9N9 centaurs only have 19 prot, because the +6 from the berserk does not stack arithmetically with their existing 15 protection - you have to use that formula which separates natural prot from armour prot.
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September 21st, 2005, 04:01 PM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
This might sound dumb.but what's a "van"?
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September 21st, 2005, 04:03 PM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
its vanheims sacred unit
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September 21st, 2005, 04:05 PM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
Vans, like the white centaurs, have high defense and are sacred, but have rather weak attack. Both are very good units when used with high-magic pretender, either playing on their strengths (defense -> high water) or giving them real damaging power (fire 9, or nature 9 for centaurs as they start with berserk)
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September 21st, 2005, 05:22 PM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
Quote:
archaeolept said:
hey, if we're doing a fair fight, give the vans F9W9
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So, suppose for a moment that the Vans really did have a proper F9W9 blessing. What then? Who wins the fight in that instance?
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September 21st, 2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: Your Dom2 quiz question for today
48 Centaurs with E9N9 versus 65 Vans with F9W9, the Vans spanked the Centaurs, 48 to 19. The centaurs are tough and heavy hitters, but the vans cut them to pieces nonetheless.
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