Conceptual Balance Mods - Version 3.0

[Edi]

Nation mod Readme is ready, and I've updated that particular submod to version 4.1. It fixes numerous minor and a few pretty serious issues. Get your attachment here.

And my email is out of commission, something is up with the pop3 server of my ISP and I can't read any email. Can send as much as I like, but not read, not by downloading or through the web front end. So any comments etc should be posted in this thread for the time being.

Edi

[quantum_mechani]

ok, here are the problems I noticed:

*It make spears better, which I do not want to do.

*It lists the old lava warrior price wrong.

*It lists some Ulm infantry as made cheaper when they were not, and leaves out the shield on one.

*It lists grand thoumaturg under Marignon.

[Edi]

Check your mail, Quantum. You didn't get the one I sent you late yesterday evening because the Google mail server started *****ing something about illegal attachments, and I'm about ready to go down to their office with a fireaxe and start swinging. I just resent without attachments.

EDIT: Also resent the DB file, as a zip this time, Google seems to hate rar files.

quantum_mechani said:
ok, here are the problems I noticed:

*It make spears better, which I do not want to do.

I can understand that from one point of view, but from another, it is simply bizarre. Spears right now suck arse, the base damage they do is 2 less than a simple shortsword, and only half of what a broadsword does. It also lacks any defensive bonus, which the swords have (and I agree with, or it would be too good). This does not in any way, shape or form reflect the truth of spear vs sword.

quantum_mechani said:
*It lists the old lava warrior price wrong.

My bad, that one. You can probably blame it on being tired when I did that.

quantum_mechani said:
*It lists some Ulm infantry as made cheaper when they were not, and leaves out the shield on one.

Sorry about the mistake with those two infantries. My bad. I left the shield out of the morningstar black plate infantry because it didn't fit, but added an abbreviation now.

quantum_mechani said:
*It lists grand thoumaturg under Marignon.

That's because I forgot to delete that line after I'd used it to align the modifications column so that it would be in the same place as the others.

Fixed these, new readme attached here. Still lacks the heroes. See the email for details of why.

[Turin]

Edi said:

I can understand that from one point of view, but from another, it is simply bizarre. Spears right now suck arse, the base damage they do is 2 less than a simple shortsword, and only half of what a broadsword does. It also lacks any defensive bonus, which the swords have (and I agree with, or it would be too good). This does not in any way, shape or form reflect the truth of spear vs sword.

The problem is that all of the uber sacred troops use spears. Vans, daoine sidhe and white centaurs all use spears and those troops really don´t need a buff. And spear troops usually get built as arrow catchers, since they tend to be the cheapest. The mod should create more diversity not less.

That being said the damage difference isn´t that big when you factor strength in.
A normal strength 10 troop deals 13 damage with a spear and 15 with a shortsword. That´s actually pretty close.

[Edi]

Hmm, I wasn't obviously thinking about the sacred troop angle. Well, the weapon modding is in the very beginning, so just snipping out the spears will make it good.

Gotta run now, though.

Edi

[Oversway]

Nothing to say other than thanks again for the work!