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				September 25th, 2005, 05:31 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Ruins Tech 
 SJ I have different results again in tactical combat version 1.91:
 A fleet with three ships all have the neural net, one ship has an experience of 30% the other two have 0%. The displayed to hit chances in tactical combat are 30% higher for the trained ship than for the other two!
 
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				September 25th, 2005, 06:48 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Ruins Tech 
 This bug seems to be more complicated:
 The neural net does work or does not work according to the age of the ships (probably the ship ID number)!!!
 
 The experience is tranfered only to ships younger than the trained ship.
 
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 Ships Nr 1,2,3,4. Ship 1 was the first constructed, ship 4 the last. All have the neural net. Ship 2 and 4 are trained to 20%.
 In tactical combat the displayed to hit chances are for
 - Fleet 1,2,3:
 ship 1 15%
 ship 2 35%
 ship 3 35%
 Therefore ship 1 does not get experience transfered, however the younger ship 3 gets it!
 - Fleet 1,3,4:
 ship 1: 15%
 ship 3: 15%
 ship 4: 35%
 This time ship 3 does not get experience transfered either because it is not younger than ship 4 who has the experience!
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				September 25th, 2005, 08:00 AM
			
			
			
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 Interesting results. So every ship constructed AFTER the one who shares its experience receive the benefits, the ones constructed before dont. Does retrofitting give a new ID, as Q mentions ? |  
	
		
	
	
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				September 25th, 2005, 09:13 AM
			
			
			
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 I don't think retrofitting changes anything, but I didn't test it.Unfurtunately the shrapnel server does not accept a file.gam for upload so I had to cheat: change the name from TestNN.gam.txt to TestNN.gam for the attached file. Use the Eee fleet to attack the single Abbidon ship.
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 Some more results from my tests:
 - Retrofitting does not change if experience is transfered or not.
 - ships need not to be fleeted to get experience transfed. All ships with the neural net in the sector that are younger than the trained ship will get the transfer.
 - Only the offensive bonus of experience is transfered not the defensive bonus.
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				September 25th, 2005, 02:43 PM
			
			
			
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		| Q said: - Only the offensive bonus of experience is transfered not the defensive bonus.
 
 |  This seems to be a common error (either in the ability or the text descriptions) with "combat bonuses." The Combat Shrines only provide an offense bonus as well, even though this is not what the facility description implies.
 
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		| Q said: - ships need not to be fleeted to get experience transfed. All ships with the neural net in the sector that are younger than the trained ship will get the transfer.
 
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				 Re: Ruins Tech 
 Oops. Thanks. 
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