OT: Revised Edition Star Trek

[Suicide Junkie]

In the same manner that "gamma rays" make "the hulk", "tachyons" make the "cloak detector".
Pure fertilizer-grade technobabble.

[NullAshton]

So? Tachyons are cool, they stay. Tachyons are one of the cooler things of star trek, remove them and it falls apart.

[Suicide Junkie]

" Narf:
Hey, anyone want to create a rational and consistant ST universe?"

Your opinion of coolness has nothing to do with rationality or consistency.

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Now, I have no objections to having cloaked ships emit tachyons, provided that they are in fact tachyons, and the side effects are taken care of.

For example, if ships can emit and detect tachyons, why aren't they used for FTL communications? Less energy to make the message go faster seems to be a huge advantage.

[Wolfman77]

So tachyon could be used for detecting Romulan ships. Sounds ok to me since their clock shifts them slightly out of phase. I remember a couple TNG shows about that. One with Geordi and Roe, and one about Rikers former ship.

How about the Klingon ships, do they work differently? Maybe some kind of exhaust detection would work good for them. Though I'm still not sold on them just thinking exhaust conainment was unimportant.

SJ: I was thinking that if they could store, or block the energy then they should also be able to use some of it for power. Kind of like recycling, to extent the time they could remain cloaked. Not that it means a whole lot as it is sci-fi, but at least then the energy used wouldn't melt them in a calculation (x gigawatts heats up y Kg to Zº in t minutes). The longer they stay cloaked the more they emit, untill it is finally detectable.

[NullAshton]

Because tachyons are hard to form a coherent message with? Or to modulate, for that matter. Klingon ships stole their cloaks from the romulans. And I think SJ is talking about heat buildup.

[Wolfman77]

I assumed it was heat build up, still could be used in this way though, couldn't it?

Someone should talk to Narf about using "rational" "consistant" and "Star Trek" in the same sentance.

[Suicide Junkie]

Using the energy they generate efficiently is always a good goal.
And the less they generate from fuel stores, the less they have to store in their hull.

However, entropy prevents you from recycling energy.

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You can easily have different detection methods for romulans or klingons.
The design decision of how to get rid of the heat generated on your ship would turn out differently for both. Internal politics, probably at the forefront.
"Design X was chosen because the company which designed it was located it the home province of the current governor", for example.

[Wolfman77]

They use a warp core to travel FTL, powered by matter-antimatter reaction using dilithium to regulate it. They have artificial gravity, and energy shields. Makes entropy less of a "this won't work" problem, in relation to the rest of it. I do know what you mean though.

[Suicide Junkie]

If they were able to reverse entropy on a closed system like a cloaked ship, they'd have no need for fuel at all...

Also, I don't see any evidence that the "warp core" does anything out of the ordinary...
It just generates gobs of energy via simple matter/antimatter annihilation (with a technobabble reaction mediator).

As far as I can tell, the nacelles do all the FTL work.
The "fact" that the impulse drive and even the computer core use the same type of TB field when running off of simple fusion or emergency battery power is also telling.

[Atrocities]

Stop Picking On Star Trek! Ours is not to question why, it is simply to stare blankly and watch and to think not!