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Old October 5th, 2005, 12:44 AM

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Default Re: The PATCH! What do you think?

My friend refuse to put up armys and I try to convince the man that this is not the final end of all est/mid-east battles. The game has alot of suprises, when my friend refered to the Russian equipment over-all it has been significant changes from the first versions that was put out on the www. There has been a gradual change of all east/mod-east oobs since the beginning of the grand SPMBT éra. There has been changes for the better to the worse and I think that even if my friend that is a huge fan of SPMBT as game motor do overreact a bit. Even if both of us and anyone out there do know that alot of the statistics are from former Cold War sources or people served in countrys occupied or in any way lived in terror for the russians and in that way, togheter with some to often biased weapon industry, information sources has their finger in the facts that is presented when modding a game.

All this togheter with the Cold War BS to quote my friend has made this game to what it is today. Kevin are right, shorter battles more blood My friend is a maneuver freek and often, very of often he has won big by using the terrain that I have to say is the best ever in WINSPMBT version. Another thing is that the T-62M Iraqi tank has been a bit improved. That my friend was impressed over. The Iraqi OOB is as good as it can get I guess. But to defend my friend when it comes to expensive equipment vs Stalin that "quantity has a quality thesis. You cant do that in WINSPMBT not by a long shot. Thats why the game get a bit Biased today. And this quote is exactly why I understand my friend. Western tanks *are* superior to Eastern tanks (regardless of individual tastes). lol

Well Western doctrine was superior to eastern military doctrine. What people forget when they make games today, is that to make a army as the U.S as I love to play with working fair and balanced in a game like SPMBT you need to have everything around it working too. That is sattelites, AWACS heck and all this to really make the M1A2 this powerful. Put it even with a experianced crew in the middle of the desert without all that support that makes the U.S army as powerful as it is in the game aganinst a Republican Guard Unit crewed by U.S tankers and with Vision 75 and try to see for how long IRL time that M1A2 would survive in ranges between 800-1000 meters.

I say, I would not like to be the one that sits in that tank. Problem is that when mixing IRL statistics in games togheter with doctrines etc etc you always get one sided when alot of the material everything is based on battles where the commanders has failed or when someone has made a real smart manuever. It is neraly impossible to claim that western tanks would have been superior in a battle where both sides had the same stuff. Lets say the Iraqi Republican Guard did have french night sights and ammunition that wasnt 30 years out of date etc etc.

So I do understand my friend on many points. However WINSPMBT is still good I think. And even if I or my friend may feel like some areas of this game is baised. There will never be a game with all this extras out there that will get this far as a game experiance. Something about the Base Experiances can be why my friend is grumble a bit. Alot of West friendly countrys that not have been in any action since 1991 or even further back has base experiances that is annoying to him. Russia has been working on their new doctrine since 1991 and 2000 they put up their new one. Their army cant any worse after 2000 then Sweden that have not been in a real war for 200 years. lol I think he got a point there.

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Shilka still a SPMBT freak!
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