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		As Richard requested, a new thread for discussion (rather than submission) on the SE4 CD. 
 
Q) How much time do we have? 
 
I'm wondering whether I'll have time to make any tweaks to my mod, or the patched AIs, or reconstruct my AI Patcher program, etc. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		is this just for mods or are they gonna include new race too? I mean obviously the TDM msut be included but what about all the other great races? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		 quote: Basically I am looking for anything an upcoming SE:IV fan has GOT to have.
  I think that would be a Yes   
Submit it, and Shrapnel will either include everything, trim down the submissions to 650MB - Size(SE4), or add another CD    .  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Just to head things off at the pass, I'm sure only original works will be acceptable.  Malfador/Shrapnal probably isn't game to get their heads handed to them by overzealous lawyers from Lucas Films, Paramont, and others.   
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		Zircher,  how about just changing the names etc in these good mods.  This way they could be incorporated and we would have new race names etc?? This would also eliminate lawyers etc. 
 
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		Agreed Zircher.  Given the climate and the history of LA, and PP's, any inclusion of any images, or other, into this new CD would most definately result in a law suite. 
Its a pitty, but one has to protect ones property, and MM and Shrapnel are to smart to get caught up in some stupid copy right law suite.
 
One thing that they can do is include links to site that have these sets.     
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		Atrocities,  why wouldn't the mods be considered original as they were desgined by the modders. only names and the shipsets are used for some of the races, why couldn't we just change the names of the races, and have a contest for the modders to design new original shipsets to go with them for the cd?? 
 
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		Not the mods.      The ship sets that use images from known sources like Lucas Arts, Lucas Films, Paramount, Universal, etc.
 
Those ones would more than likely draw lawyers.
 
However, if shrapnel clearly states that all images are the works of their respective authors, and claim no profit from them, then perhaps they might be able to include them, but I doubt it.
 
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		Richard:  When do we have to have all this ready? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		the pcmod and bundled scenarios will not be done for at least two months.  i would request that people provide their scenarios for the CD, the P&N scenarios, and the voyager scenario if possible. 
 
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