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		Yep, web content has to be equally accessible to individuals with disabilities.  Including blind individuals.  It provides the mechanism for these “individuals” to collect civil damages, which is where the legal establishment stepped in.  The intent was to improve access; the result has been the skimming of much cash. 
 
Every site has to be completely viewable by adaptive software such as JAWS.  It can be a real pain when writing code by hand. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I've been using Firefox for a year or two now, and I'm very happy with it.  I haven't had any problems.      
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I have been using Firefox for a while now. I can't live without tabs. It's really nice and easy to add-on. The skins are fun to play with also. Pop-ups are rare and I didn't even have to install any add-ons for that! I've had no technical problems from it at all which is rare for my hodge-podge PC. I don't hate IE, I just love Firefox.   
[EDIT] I just ran my website through the validator. It was full of errors! I had no idea! It's true about Frontpage. Unfortunatly I am horrible at manual HTML coding. Is there a better program for creating websites that won't have so many errors? I want to make sure my site is bug-free.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I am now a convert to teh cause of Firefox. This program is awesome! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Bah, all this talk of IE v. Firefox et. al., it is complete nonsense. There is only one true way to browse the internet, read mail or news, use the shell, or in general, do anything at all. And that way, friends, is  EMACS.
      
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Bah.  
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Bah.  
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Yep, web content has to be equally accessible to individuals with disabilities.  Including blind individuals.  It provides the mechanism for these “individuals” to collect civil damages, which is where the legal establishment stepped in.  The intent was to improve access; the result has been the skimming of much cash. 
 
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 I hadn't heard if this before.  Could you post a link to a reference?  I googled the topic, but the most recent source that I found (2002) said that the "Americans with Disabilities Act" doesn't apply to web pages:   http://news.com.com/2100-1023-962761.html  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Evil, evil Will! 
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There is Macromedia Dreamweaver... There are programs out there designed to clean up messey code. See Tidy:
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