Max Forge Bonus

[shovah]

only problem is even with forge of the ancients you still usually need some empowerment to forge most things (in my current sp game i have a smith making me blood thorns and 2 slaves each (i used summons and my pretender to get slaves)

[Edi]

An Ulmish Master Smith with a regular dwarven hammer and 20 percent construction bonus from a site like The Steel Ovens or Banefire Forge hits 70 right off the bat, at which point hammers cost 6 gems and so forth. I'm not sure if bonuses from multiple sites in the same province stack, but if they do and you get more than one construction bonus site in the same place, it'd be a massive imbalance.

Edi

[magnate]

I can confirm that you can achieve the ultimate forge bonus (forging 80-gem items for one gem) with the following:

Forge of the Ancients (immediately halves all forging costs)
Ulmish Master Smith (25% forge bonus)
Hammer of the Forge Lord (50% forge bonus)
The Steel Ovens (20% forge bonus)

I don't quite know how it works though - that's a 95% bonus after initial halving, which means that 80-gem items should cost 0.05x40 = 2 gems. But they don't, they only cost 1 gem. Weird.

CC
P.S. Apologies in advance if the above is no longer correct - it's quite a few patches ago that I did it. It may have been fixed since then.

[shovah]

i seem to remember having a high forge bonus did weird things (sometimes it cost 3, sometimes 2, sometimes 5) but i also tested a few patches ago

[WraithLord]

Edi said:
An Ulmish Master Smith with a regular dwarven hammer and 20 percent construction bonus from a site like The Steel Ovens or Banefire Forge hits 70 right off the bat, at which point hammers cost 6 gems and so forth. I'm not sure if bonuses from multiple sites in the same province stack, but if they do and you get more than one construction bonus site in the same place, it'd be a massive imbalance.

Edi

It wouldn't have been such an imbalance had there been a cap for "economy" items, such as fever fetish, blood stone, soul contract and such.
Currently this has the potential of simply breaking the game. Who needs provinces/economy anyway when you can alchemize you fire gems after spamming fetishes.

I really dislike this aspect of the game, for the be competitive I'm obliged to abuse it.
I hope the devs will do something about it in DOM-III. I prefer the cap solution then increasing cost and requirements. Because it would eliminate all possible ways to reach a crazy forge bonus and spam items.

[shovah]

ive only used it in sp though, too risky for multiplayer me thinkies (it is for me atleast)

[WraithLord]

shovah said:
ive only used it in sp though, too risky for multiplayer me thinkies (it is for me atleast)

Risky??

[shovah]

if you dont get enough gems initially you wont be able to pull it off quickly enough and there is a very good chance you will get stomped