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November 9th, 2005, 04:22 AM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
Yeah, one person doesn't have the money to take a company to court, but a bunch of people do.
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November 9th, 2005, 11:03 AM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
And that answers the first question of which law would supersede the other in court: The one that has the most money protecting it.
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November 9th, 2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
99% of all of the funds won in 99% of all class action lawsuits that are won or are settled end up going the trial lawyers.
American General Finance was once sued for improperly figuring interest on loans. It cost me around $440.00 according to the lawsuit. AG settled for nearly a 100 million or so and when it was all said and done, and mind you there were only about 2,000 plaintiffs, I got a check for, and I kid you not, $0.27.
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November 9th, 2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
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99% of all of the funds won in 99% of all class action lawsuits that are won or are settled end up going the trial lawyers.
American General Finance was once sued for improperly figuring interest on loans. It cost me around $440.00 according to the lawsuit. AG settled for nearly a 100 million or so and when it was all said and done, and mind you there were only about 2,000 plaintiffs, I got a check for, and I kid you not, $0.27.
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Ouch!  Bet you felt great taking that down to the bank!  So I guess in the States they don't have those lovely little laws limiting the ammount lawyers can charge to a percentage of the total claim? You should look into getting one of those, they're dead handy. 
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November 9th, 2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
I really believe that any licenses/agreements should be published at the place of sale PRIOR to purchas so that the buyer has an adiquite prepurchase chance review and decline the said licenses. Furthermore I believe that if you decline the license or agreement while installing the software the software should still be installed. Refusing to agree to an agreement or license after you bought the product is kinda stupid in my opinion. Afterall you did buy it without knowning there was such a license therefore you should have the right to say no to it and still be able to install the software you purchased.
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November 9th, 2005, 10:08 PM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
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I really believe that any licenses/agreements should be published at the place of sale PRIOR to purchas so that the buyer has an adiquite prepurchase chance review and decline the said licenses. Furthermore I believe that if you decline the license or agreement while installing the software the software should still be installed. Refusing to agree to an agreement or license after you bought the product is kinda stupid in my opinion. Afterall you did buy it without knowning there was such a license therefore you should have the right to say no to it and still be able to install the software you purchased.
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Well, I wouldn't go quite so far as to say that you should be able to decline the EULA, and still install it, but if you read the EULA and don't agree to it, then you can chose not to install it, then do whatever things you wanted to that the EULA prohibts (like archival copies), and then install the software afterwards, agreeing to the EULA since you've already done all the stuff it says you can't.
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November 10th, 2005, 12:09 AM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
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99% of all of the funds won in 99% of all class action lawsuits that are won or are settled end up going the trial lawyers.
American General Finance was once sued for improperly figuring interest on loans. It cost me around $440.00 according to the lawsuit. AG settled for nearly a 100 million or so and when it was all said and done, and mind you there were only about 2,000 plaintiffs, I got a check for, and I kid you not, $0.27.
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The real ***** of this is that the bank will just turn around and charge its account holders this money in interest on future loans, fees, etc. So really what happened is that lawyers screwed the very same people it claimed to want to help twice, once when they tricked them into screwing themselves out of 100 million, and a second time when they didnt pay out a fair settlement on the class action.
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November 10th, 2005, 03:19 PM
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Re: OT: Software copyright law?
What I realy like is when someone else installs the software for you. EULA? what EULA?
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