WINSPWW2?

[narwan]

Separate vichy french? Now that I like. A lot. Like really really a lot. Thanks!

Narwan

[DRG]

narwan said:
Separate vichy french? Now that I like. A lot. Like really really a lot. Thanks!

Narwan

It made more sense to create an axis Vichy France that would disapear than set up the French OOB as "1940" France then Vichy France then post war france and have a sparate "free" French". This way WinSPww2 will have the "allied" French in one oob and the axis in another. In July 1940 the flag for France will automatically change to include the Cross of Lorraine then after 1944 change back to the standard flag. "Vichy France" will be represented with the standard French flag during it's existance but of course, the Free French will be tagged with the COL version so there won't be any confusion

Don

[narwan]

I've tried to set-up battles (for PBEM) between the US and French in SPWW2 to simulate the US Torch landings but it always reverted to a battle in mainland france, not the colonies. I assume/hope in WinSPWW2 there will the option to choose the specific location (like Morocco, Algeria, west-africa, syria, madagascar, New caledonia, french indochina, to name a few locations I hope will be present) for generated battles with the vichy french?

Narwan

[DRG]

narwan said:
I've tried to set-up battles (for PBEM) between the US and French in SPWW2 to simulate the US Torch landings but it always reverted to a battle in mainland france, not the colonies. I assume/hope in WinSPWW2 there will the option to choose the specific location (like Morocco, Algeria, west-africa, syria, madagascar, New caledonia, french indochina, to name a few locations I hope will be present) for generated battles with the vichy french?

Narwan

Vichy France will have it's own AI picklist and battle locations but they will be tied to date and opponent as is done now.

Don

[narwan]

DRG said:

Vichy France will have it's own AI picklist and battle locations but they will be tied to date and opponent as is done now.

Don

Which makes sense but some of these locations are interesting what if scenario's (what if New Caledonia didn't become free french or Indochina did (and was subsequently invaded)? What if the free french did invade some of the Vichy territories in west africa? etc) or interesting in a different time frame. What if Torch never happened and the allies landed in France in '43 (or even '44) with an intact Vichy france?
Will the options for battle locations be limited to purely historical campaigns and battles or leave room for these what-ifs? All you'd really need is a list of Vichy territories (and could have been Vichy territories) to pick from during the entire duration of the existence of the Vichy OB, whether the territory was still part of Vichy france or not. You'd get those options via the terrain editor screen during start-up of a battle if you pick Vichy france as a side. Assuming that's possible code wise.

Narwan

[DRG]

That's what sceanrio designers do. If you want to "what-if" design a scenario. Think about what you asked for a minite "What if Torch never happened and the allies landed in France in '43" ...... really?... Just HOW do I design battle locations for that and not generated a hundred emails from people telling me to read a history book ??

I'll tell you what...I'll provide the game and the Icons and the OOB's and you can build scenarios for what-if's like that. If you choose Japan vs Vichy you will be given something reasonably appropriate for the time period and if we can we will provide something totally appropriate. If you want to "what - if " something like Hungary vs Vichy France you'll be given a general map .

Don

[BaronvonBeer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you guys already give us the option to do just what narwan says? Before a campaign battle, can generate a new map with current location, with new (correct for matchup) location, or manualy enter a location "code". Couldn't you just enter a code in for the regiou you want to "what if"?