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Old November 12th, 2005, 05:13 AM
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some more info on the shadows:

"The Shadows" (a name given to them by the younger races, as their true name - at ten thousand letters - is unpronounceable) are the most ancient of the surviving First Ones, the second to gain sentience in the Galaxy. For more than a million years, the Shadows warred with the remaining First Ones, and suffered their greatest defeat ten thousand years ago. One thousand years ago the Shadows returned, and were barely defeated by the Vorlons and the younger races, led by the Minbari with the help of Valen. They dispersed throughout the galaxy, waiting for an opportunity to come back into power. The Shadows' overriding philosophy is chaos. They believe in the survival of the fittest, in that only through chaos and war do "stronger" civilizations reach their maximum potential; this belief stands in high contrast to the Vorlon's belief in slow but guided progress - though both races use external manipulation to achieve their goals. Their adopted homeworld is Z'ha'dum. Their physical appearance is vaguely insectoid, though this may be an encounter suit. Additionally, their advanced understanding of the nature of matter allows them to "phase," making them visible only to obscure bandwidths of the electro-magnetic spectrum. The Shadows are believed to be the first to discover and manipulate Hyperspace. Their technology, like the Vorlons, is organic, and they use sentient beings as CPUs for their ships - resultantly, telepaths can interfere with or destroy their technology. True to their "Shadow" name, they utilize associate races and slaves, known as Thralls, to guide races to chaos and war, without being seen themselves.
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AC, well done. I owe you, this set is beautfil. The troops are awesome. VERY WELL DONE ! !!

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Cool, I am glad that you guys like the set.
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On the show, the shadows are never seen, I thought. Noone knows what they really look like.
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On the show, the shadows are never seen, I thought. Noone knows what they really look like.
Oh, they were seen several times. It was always very brief. Just like the shark in "Jaws" they had to have a good buildup and not too much exposure.
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Great job AT. I downloaded the zip and the drone pic was missing. Is that in the V1.0 file?
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Thanks, will check on it.
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You are right, Vorlons and Shadow were actually the "youngest" of the old ones. At least i believe so. Some month ago i made a post about the old-ones-matter on some kind of forum, and people were able to told me the names of the other races and their history, but unfortunally i wasnt able to remember all that. I know of the Kirishac, the Torvalus, Walkers...and 2 or 3 more which i dont remember.
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While it's true that the Vorlons were one of the younger of the 'First Ones' the Shadows were actually the oldest of all races except for the race that 'Lorien' came from. This is clearly stated in the original scripts by JMS, it's not some deduction or assumption.

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/038.html

"In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum"

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We have no other name for them. The Shadows were old when even the ancients were young. They battled one another over and over across a million years. The last Great War against the Shadows was ten thousand years ago. It was the last time the ancients walked openly among us. The Shadows were only defeated, not destroyed. A thousand years ago, the Shadows returned to their places of power, rebuilt them, and began to stretch forth their hand. Before they could strike, they were defeated by an alliance of worlds, including the Minbari and the few remaining First Ones who had not yet passed beyond the veil. When they had finished, the First Ones went away. All but one.
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I thought that the Vorlons and Shadows were the youngest races of the 'First Ones' and all the older races moved on beyond the 'Rim'. At least that's how I remember the story told to Sheridan at Z'ha'dum by "The First One" (I forget his name).
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