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				 Re: You Learn Something New Every Day. 
 Well for example, I jsut got a new laptop about a month ago. 3mghz processor, 128mb video card, 1 gb of ram. It exceeds every single game I own but still some of tehm run slow or crash if I set the graphics setting all the way up. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: You Learn Something New Every Day. 
 Most of the games I've looked at list minimum and recommended - But then, I don't look at very many. 
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				 Re: You Learn Something New Every Day. 
 I've yet to see a game that didn't list both, and I look at a good few.  Personally though, I always just look at the Recommended spec and take that as the minumum, since I've always figured that the way minimum and recommended specs get onto a box goes something like:Devs pass minimum specs to Marketing.
 Marketing cuts the specs by 25-50% and puts those down for minimum spec.
 Devs find out and raise hell.
 Marketing 'compromises' by adding the devs minimum spec in as the 'recommended spec.
 
 Either way, I usually just read the review in something like PC Gamer where they tell you what spec they recommend, so you know what you need in order to run it and have it look like it does on the back of the box.
 
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				 Re: You Learn Something New Every Day. 
 Personally I just give into the giant monsters like Gamespot and IGN for a couple of minutes.    
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		| AgentZero said: I've yet to see a game that didn't list both, and I look at a good few.
 
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 LoL...i just got age of empires 3. I CANT PLAY it!!! it requires windows xp, i love that bloody microsoft company. Oh well i guess i can live without it.
 But if u want good card get an ati 9800, its cheap 2:-)...i have 9600 xt and i can run doom3 or half life 2 w/ nothing bad, note at high setting. Friend has 512 more ram n runs at full setting.
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				 Re: You Learn Something New Every Day. 
 I have found that in general, ATI cards are more stable and run better than NVidia cards. I'm not sure if this is true overall, but I have found this true with like eight different cards.
 For example, in my old desktop, I used to have a game that should not have run on the ATI card that I had, but it would run on low settings. A few months later I got an NVidia card that more than exceeded the games requirements, but the game would only run well at low or medium settings.
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 False advertising for the sake of selling product. What's in a little white lie anyhow? RIGHT?        Just get used to the fact that we are all left on our own to get these products we buy, to run. I've had some games that require you to overhaul your computer to run them. It's ridiculous that you should have to go through all that to get something to run and then undo it to get back to where you started. I had an Apple (many many years ago) and they specified all hardware requirements for their systems (the original plug n play). Microsoft has failed to set down hardware requirements for it's software (like DirectX) and now we pay the price trying to get things to work on our computers. |  
	
		
	
	
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		| kerensky said: Well for example, I jsut got a new laptop about a month ago. 3mghz processor, 128mb video card, 1 gb of ram. It exceeds every single game I own but still some of tehm run slow or crash if I set the graphics setting all the way up.
 
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Also, you have a laptop. This isn't a problem with most programs but games tend to be fussy about certain things often don't like laptops (ussually because they have unusual video drivers).
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