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November 30th, 2005, 09:53 PM
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Re: Special Items
Thank You Phoenix-D for clarification about "Fold" option!
James Sterrett thanks for the hint also. I will try to bring those items home.
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December 1st, 2005, 04:55 AM
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Re: Special Items
Seriously, read the descriptions!! For a start you're missing out on a lot of enjoyment by ignoring them, and secondly you end up not knowing what things do, when in fact it's generally spelled out for you.
The option is labelled "fold" and the Zorg first-encounter text talks about Helmsmen folding space. If you just read the text, you'll not be sitting there wondering about this kind of stuff.
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December 4th, 2005, 04:28 AM
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Re: Special Items
Some of the descriptions are pretty obscure. Theres a handfull of sci-fi and wierd-fiction references that many people just wont get.
I find myself wondering how things interact, and sometimes wonder if im barking up the wrong tree.
for instance, do items have any impact on events? If i have a special item or creature with me when I see space whales or discover R'yleth, will something else happen?
If not (and events are just static sources of exploration points), I dont really want to waste my time trying to travel from system to system with different combinations of things, hoping to hit the right event at the right time.
otherwise, i dont really mind experimenting. of course, im just experimenting with the demo, because my download woes are continueing.
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December 4th, 2005, 03:26 PM
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Re: Special Items
Items can have an impact on certain events..I know of the Lookout Frogs, Toy Robot, and Crystal Fish for three that do.
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December 5th, 2005, 09:41 PM
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Re: Special Items
SPOILER
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The Toy Robot and Lookout Frogs both protect your ship against the thief/saboteur Esmeralda.
The Torc of Babulon lets you see cloaked ships (hint: Urluqai).
The Mantle of Babulon makes you friend with the Zorg, Muktian and Urluqai.
The Crystal Fish makes you friend with the Tchorak.
Nothing makes you friend with the Tan Ru. A Particle Vortex Cannon makes you friend with their charred remains.
The Chromium Gong, when used (once!) in battle, kills the biggest (or meanest) enemy ship.
The Timeless Bauble lets you "order" any item you want. But you have to type the item's name correctly, and the item mustn't be found in the current game already (so the bigger the map, the bigger the chances you'll be disappointed).
The Aethric Mirror lets you swap your position with an enemy fleet. Useful for instant travel and access to guarded systems. You can also use a funny trick with the Vacuum Collapser, the Aethric Mirror and the Yellow Kawanji if you're totally insane.
The Melodium Conograph is best left unused. lol.
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December 5th, 2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: Special Items
ooo, i shouldnt have read that, but i did. I had actually figured most of those things out, and im sort of sad to see that there are not more.
I know theres some sort of Prometheus quest, because I found an item that activated the quest once. I died before I could get anywhere on it (didnt have the item that allowed entry into black holes, and had no idea where or what Damocles was... aside from a greek goat farmer who was frinds of King Minos, and had a chat regarding a sword)
I took a look at one of the event files and one of the item files, to get an idea of the structure. I think it would be pretty easy to mod in some more "interactive" type events that trigger differently based on whats in your cargo hold.
for more challenging games, theres a few items that should probably be left out. Vortex Cannon, Temporal Shields, Cloak of Bab, Gong, and Mirror all come to mind.
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December 5th, 2005, 11:22 PM
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Re: Special Items
In fact, there are only two "major quests" in WW:
1. Primordius
2. The Yellow Kawangi
I'd be happy to create a few mods and expand the universe, though...
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