MP Game - Artifact Game - running 48hr qh

archaeolept · #1 January 2nd, 2006, 10:45 AM

ehh, it was a mutual error. I don't mind; resignation is surely too drastic.

Morkilus · #2 January 2nd, 2006, 04:57 PM

I figure if someone can have the Freak Lord, some shapeshifting guy shouldn't be that different. Don't resign! This is a fun game. I'm a neighbor and don't see any problem...

Cainehill · #3 January 2nd, 2006, 05:09 PM

Eh, Freak Lord is explicitly a human pretender, usually regarded as being in the "trash" category : 1 dominion (*), 10 point magic paths, HPs comparable to all the other humans. Smoking Mirror : 20 point paths, 2 starting dominion, shapeshifting into a form that keeps all its magic but gets 41 base HPs, 2-3 times as many as all the other human pretenders.

That said, I don't see too much of a problem with it - not like when I ran into a Shedu in a supposed human-pretender only game.

* : Base game, all the humans had dominions of 1; Conceptual Balance mod has tweaked that a bit over time, as the archmage at one point had 2, as does Pythium's Divine Emperor.

quantum_mechani · #4 January 2nd, 2006, 05:32 PM

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* : Base game, all the humans had dominions of 1; Conceptual Balance mod has tweaked that a bit over time, as the archmage at one point had 2, as does Pythium's Divine Emperor.

Actually, the divine emperor had 2 base game, he now has 3.

Morkilus · #5 January 2nd, 2006, 05:59 PM

Turn's up.

Wish · #6 January 2nd, 2006, 06:29 PM

btw ironhawk, did you like what I did with my artifact wardens? I figure a bow of accuracy makes them worthwhile.

I'll sell bows of accuracy to anyone else who wants them, for 10 astral pearls and 50 gold or 5 air gems and 50 gold.

Ironhawk · #7 January 2nd, 2006, 07:22 PM

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btw ironhawk, did you like what I did with my artifact wardens? I figure a bow of accuracy makes them worthwhile.

Hehehe, yeah that was funny.

I was surprised and pleased to see them in combat and they actually did a bit of damage. Didnt someone make an Artifact Warden prophet, too?

WraithLord · #8 January 2nd, 2006, 06:29 PM

This is beside the point but come to thing of it, the rational that pretenders with some advantage that are only available for some of the nations should be disqualified might apply to some more human pretenders.

For example the alchemist. Alchemy by itself is a clear advantage and he's only available to a few nations.

I guess it has to do with wether the idea behind having human pretenders is thematic or for balancing. Because for perfect balancing we might as well have all taken the same pretender. but that's not fun imo.

The game is fun and for sure I'd like to continue playing. I take it that this advantage isn't considered as a problem by fellow players, so I'll happily continue

Ironhawk · #9 January 2nd, 2006, 07:20 PM

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izaqyos said:
This is beside the point but come to thing of it, the rational that pretenders with some advantage that are only available for some of the nations should be disqualified might apply to some more human pretenders.

The discussion behind no-shapeshifters centered more around the fact that shapeshifters are significantly more durable than the humans which were available to other nations. The Skratti also fell into this category.

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The game is fun and for sure I'd like to continue playing. I take it that this advantage isn't considered as a problem by fellow players, so I'll happily continue

Not a problem for me, either. But I felt a duty to report it to the community. Please continue on