Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

Daynarr · #1 January 4th, 2006, 02:25 PM

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I won't add a pile of arguments, just speaking from experience : just note how many Mictlan and Marignon players use it :roll: !

Actually it's designed for those races in the first place. What's so strange that they are good with it?

shovah · #2 January 4th, 2006, 02:49 PM

i wouldnt really say its designed for mictain...

Daynarr · #3 January 4th, 2006, 05:06 PM

It's designed for each nation with cheap holy troops. Mictlan actually needs F9 blessing to survive early phases of the game. Even more so if he starts near Ulm.

archaeolept · #4 January 4th, 2006, 05:19 PM

ulm is a threat to mictlan????

F9 blessing solves mictlan's early game problems; but i daresay quickened jaguars and some imps would make short work of "let us all run away in our extremely heavy armor" ulmish troops.

even a death blessing would work against ulm. actually, pretty well anything would work...

Cainehill · #5 January 4th, 2006, 05:25 PM

I'd suspect Mictlan would need either fire-9 or a death blessing : without F9, they're not doing damage to Ulm, so no morale checks, unless they have fear from the death blessing. B9/N9 bonuses to strength don't seem like they'd be enough to get through the armor before Mict's troops were destroyed.

Although, Ulm not having any Sermon of Courage casters (aside from Prophet / random events) doesn't help them, at all, ever.

Ironhawk · #6 January 4th, 2006, 08:44 PM

Generally speaking I think it can be said that Fire-9 is the best blessing of them all. Yeah there are certain cases where you might want a different one, but for the most part its the #1 pick.

Whether or not it needs rebalancing.... well maybe it does. But what I'm more intersted to see would be a balancing of the blesses that are never picked. Like Air9, Death9, or Blood9. Earth9 too maybe. Yes, yes! I know that everyone is now going to come up with some random game with some really speicifc conditions in which they used the Air9 bless or something. The fact remains that when thinking of a bless strategy no one ever thinks of those paths first.

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Some for examples for new blessings:
Air9: Flying (in combat)
Death9: Decay weapons
Blood9: +10hp

Now, these are probably a bit overboard - but they stopped and made you think, didnt they?? With blesses like that you will not consider a bless strat and only think of F9/W9/N9 as the way to go.

Boron · #7 January 5th, 2006, 09:37 AM

E9 is occasionally picked, like for the E9N9 bless strat with pan or niefelheim.
B9 is normally not picked but theoretically at least it might maybe worth a try mainly for the enchanced blood hunt abilities of a FoB and its cheapness. So the 4 extrastrength would be a nice secondary effect.

A9, S9 and D9 get extremely rarely used though for sure and B9 i would call a borderline case.