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Old January 5th, 2006, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

E9 is occasionally picked, like for the E9N9 bless strat with pan or niefelheim.
B9 is normally not picked but theoretically at least it might maybe worth a try mainly for the enchanced blood hunt abilities of a FoB and its cheapness. So the 4 extrastrength would be a nice secondary effect.

A9, S9 and D9 get extremely rarely used though for sure and B9 i would call a borderline case.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

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E9 is occasionally picked, like for the E9N9 bless strat with pan or niefelheim.
B9 is normally not picked but theoretically at least it might maybe worth a try mainly for the enchanced blood hunt abilities of a FoB and its cheapness. So the 4 extrastrength would be a nice secondary effect.

It would be Blood 7-8. Much cheaper, and a pick or two in Growth makes a big different in how much you can hunt.
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Old January 13th, 2006, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

Ok, someone explain to me the whole blessing thing, or link to a tome that lists what is what. What is the difference between sacred and non sacred troops?

As far as balance is concerned, I think there is a little too much concern about balance. The world is not fair and some things just work better under some circumstances. You've obviously worked out a goos scheme for fire, but put the right combination togeather with another bless, or combo, and that does something killer too. But I think the whole point of becoming magically wealthy enought to do these weird things is to create an exploitable inbalance.

Or am I wrong?
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Old January 13th, 2006, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

Try the FAQ stickied at the top of this forum; it will answer some questions. The game manual answers many questions, and the manual addendum answers some others... the addendum (and other downloads) are here:

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/d2/6.htm

The sticky "Dominions II links" thread also has many useful links. Arryn's site, for example, probably contains all of the fan-made resources you might want...
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

f9 just makes all your attacks do an extra s8 or so ap damage which just rips through plenty of things (and etheral things) like butter and makes all the sacred troops that dont pack much punch (like fans and flagelants) into monsters
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Old January 25th, 2006, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

Checked as much of the fan sites as I could, nothing that really defined in an understandable way the relationship of Pretender god spell levels and bless effects. An explicit table would be really nice..... Testing for effects in combat is tedious beyond words, and not really effective.
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There is a list in your manual.
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Table 1 on page 5 ...
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Default Re: Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

Never had a manual, is it online somewhere?
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The manual came with your copy of the game that you purchased.
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