RAND2 - full, everyone send me an email

[Shmonk]

Hmm... is turn 1 starting over again? Or are we on to turn 2 yet?

[Ygorl]

I'm still trying to understand and fix a very bizarre... Um, bizarre thing.
I'd tell you about it, but I'd have to mindwipe you.
I am cautiously optimistic, though, that it's about to be resolved (pending something happening which should happen today or tomorrow).
Unfortunately, we'll be back to turn 1. Still, if you're going to have to redo any turn at all, turn 1 isn't a bad choice (and, thanks to my nifty automated backups, you don't have to re-upload pretenders...)

WraithLord, what's the difference between WraithLord and Izaqyos? And, don't worry, I will slow down the hosting for the weekend (I will set it to 48-hour quickhost on Friday).

[Peacekeeper]

Make sure you delete your previous RAND2 game folder though or you will see the last(or first if you didn't delete it before turn1 v2.0) turn 1.

Someone wanna help me with understanding this version of Orania. Are the special sites still in the provinces they would be?

[Ygorl]

Nope. It's a naked map. Nothing is fixed except the starting points (and even those aren't assigned to specific nations).

[WraithLord]

Ygorl said:
WraithLord, what's the difference between WraithLord and Izaqyos? And, don't worry, I will slow down the hosting for the weekend (I will set it to 48-hour quickhost on Friday).

A Somewhat more thematic alias

[Jurri]

Eh? I haven't noticed you playing Ermor any more than is usual... I for one will never get used to the change unless you start

Won't we all see what nation Wraithlord is playing if the hosting time is extended? I mean, wouldn't the last to play be him? That's why such requests oughta be relayed via Alneyan or some other kind-hearted fool Only, that wouldn't do any good if there are any other games that the cause for extension is in. And, if there are none deductions can be made from that... Sheesh, I'm going to get a headache if I think this trough...

Anyway, one option to avoid the possible problem would be taking the server down for 24 hours at some point. That's probably too much, though. (Of course, if I should happen to find out what nation Izaqyos is, I doubt I can resist the temptation!)

Indeed, thinking about it, won't posting to this thread make it possible to correlate nations and people? I mean, if one assumes that you will take your turn and post to the forum at nearly the same time, you could in theory observe a co-incidence of such events and draw conclusions.

Of course, the odds for observing such an event should be rather low unless you in fact are paying attention to the matter, and chances are everybody has something better to do with their time [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon10.gif[/img]

Yeah, I've got a fever and it shows...

[castigated]

so for the person who spends all their time drawing graphs, correlating the posting time and which nations have been played at a given time, said person will be awarded with a hunch about who a given nation is.

from there....uhh, i have no idea. i mean, if they tell anyone about their suspicion, we'll all yell at them, so they'll keep it to themselves. it's not like they'll be able to do diplomacy, because if someone pm'ed me and said "hey, i think you're this nation. if so, can we have an NAP?", i would be like "you're an idiot, shove off!"

i really don't see this being an issue.

[Cainehill]

Still, it's a very good reason for why the previous anonymous / rand game was hosted via email - not only does it keep you from guessing who your friends might be, it keeps you from figuring out a nation is someone you despise and want to cause hate and discontent to.

Even without any PMs or diplo, figuring out who a player is can give some definate advantages if you know something about their play style : whether they rush aggressively, or if they're more likely to leave other nations alone while independents are still available, etc, etc.

[Ygorl]

I don't think it will be a big deal. Nobody knows exactly what times WraithLord will be unavailable, if he'll take his turn before or after he's unavailable, if anyone else will be likewise delayed on Saturday (intentionally or otherwise)... So, like castigated said, with a lot of work you might be able to get a little bit of a suspicion about which nation Izaqyos is playing. But, if you've got that much free time to dedicate to meta-Dominions, why aren't you volunteering to take Arralen's spot in the Council of Wyrms game?

On the other hand, I can imagine situations when someone's delay request might be a bit more revealing. So, if you have requests, please make them as vaguely as possible, or else make them through a kind-hearted third party. Even so, some of the duty is on us as players to not try to figure out who the other people are. Just as I wouldn't try to log in to other people's accounts in the hope that they didn't password-protect them, I wouldn't try to think about who played at what times relative to where players lived or whether or not they had said that they'd be available... While it might give me some slight advantage, it's neither in the spirit of this game nor worth the time/energy it would take.

[Alneyan]

Jurri said:
That's why such requests oughta be relayed via Alneyan or some other kind-hearted fool

Somehow, I have a hunch someone is going to end up with a lot of stale turns next game I host. Them Fins!