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Re: OT of an OT: Ethanol
I guess I’ll play the smart ***.
What about when you fuse hydrogen into helium? That gives you energy. And fuel is just stored energy, so wouldn’t hydrogen be fuel? I guess deuterium would be high test and cost more too 
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What about when you fuse hydrogen into helium? That gives you energy. And fuel is just stored energy, so wouldn’t hydrogen be fuel? I guess deuterium would be high test and cost more too
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Ah why don't we just jump straight from fossil fuels to fusion! Deuterium-Tritium fusion should produce a lot of energy. Just never mind the really bad induced radioactivity of the fusion plant materials from the high neutron flux!
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Re: OT of an OT: Ethanol
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What about when you fuse hydrogen into helium? That gives you energy. And fuel is just stored energy, so wouldn’t hydrogen be fuel? I guess deuterium would be high test and cost more too
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Just never mind the really bad induced radioactivity of the fusion plant materials from the high neutron flux!
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That’s why we plan to put them all in Canada
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Well...we certainly have enough un-used land. Then the question becomes...would you be able to afford it when we sell it back to you? |
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Re: OT of an OT: Ethanol
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I guess I’ll play the smart ***.
What about when you fuse hydrogen into helium? That gives you energy. And fuel is just stored energy, so wouldn’t hydrogen be fuel? I guess deuterium would be high test and cost more too
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From what I know the best we got right now is a magnetic tokamak that uses way more energy to contain the reaction then what the steam turbines get out of the thermal energy produced.
Fission on the other hand is productive but puts out a lot of radioactive waste.
Wait, I take that back. The sun is a productive fusion reaction with are solar collectors, windmills and plants. |
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Re: OT of an OT: Ethanol
I'm suprised no one has brought up Helium 3 fuel.
"Researchers and space enthusiasts see helium 3 as the perfect fuel source" He3 link
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We can't even do regular fusion yet and Helium 3 is harder, so its out of the woods for now.
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Re: OT of an OT: Ethanol
from what I have read the Helium 3 is in theroy easier to fuse and with a lot less radioactive waste.
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from what I have read the Helium 3 is in theroy easier to fuse and with a lot less radioactive waste.
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Hmm... I'm no nuclear physicist so I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that the heavier the element, the greater the temperature/pressure necessary to evoke fusion.
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Re: OT of an OT: Ethanol
He3 + He3 --> 2x H1 + He4 + 12.85 Mev
He3 + H2 --> H1 + He4 + 18.4 Mev
H+H->D and D+H->He3 reactions produce only 1-5Mev.
But, then, you are starting with less in these cases.
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