Clash Of Armies [Started]

[Folket]

Since Mictlan needs to blood sacrifice for spreading dominions they are an exception to this rule. Mictlan is allowed to blood hunt but are prohibited from blood research and the forging of items that require blood slaves (with the exception of the jade knife).

A loophole in this rule is that I may summon spine fiends and fiends of darkness.

[The Panther]

Folket said:
A loophole in this rule is that I may summon spine fiends and fiends of darkness.

Yes, this is true since it is your national spell. Maybe I should withdraw my offer to trade my slaves to you...

[The Panther]

Folket said:
Mictlan is allowed to blood hunt.

I was under the impression that this is not true. NO ONE is allowed to blood hunt, even Mictlan. You may only use your starting slaves and nothing else.

If this IS true, then I will attempt to kill you immediately to prevent you from getting the usual horde of fiends. In fact, if I notice that you are blood hunting, then we are at war right now to the death.

[Oversway]

You probably want to go to war anyways, he has got a good start, and will have my capitol shortly.

[Cainehill]

That loophole is bogus, national spell or not. The intent was to not have anyone getting huge swarms of summoned creatures, via the very low magic site setting, which is why Wraithlord wanted to discourage you from playing Mictlan, since blood income isn't affected by the setting. If you start blood hunting and summoning fiends, you're essentially cheating.

[OG_Gleep]

You won't need to use them if you configed like you did in Schitz.

[Folket]

I know, that is why I'm trying to lobby for that mictlan should be able to use blood magic as normal but that they should not be allowed to blood hunt.

[WraithLord]

Folket said:
Since Mictlan needs to blood sacrifice for spreading dominions they are an exception to this rule. Mictlan is allowed to blood hunt but are prohibited from blood research and the forging of items that require blood slaves (with the exception of the jade knife).

A loophole in this rule is that I may summon spine fiends and fiends of darkness.

This is indeed a loophole. It is against the spirit of the rule, but certainly the way the rule was phrased it is indeed allowed. Had this apparent loophole been brought up while we were setting up the game we would not have allowed it, either we would have added an exception to the rule or resort to simply banning the blood nations.

Folket, since this loophole does exist I feel like I can't just ask you not to exploit it, though I would certainly have preferred that you don't.

[The Panther]

I have only myself to blame, for I did not read the rules closely enough when it was modified to allow Mictlan to blood hunt. Had I noticed that, I surely would have objected. Without blood hunting, he could not get more than a handful of fiends, which would be not a big deal. With blood hunting on a rich world, though, he could easily get hundreds of them.

It was much simpler when the rule was 'No Blood Hunting allowed'.

[OG_Gleep]

I thought it was everyone's understanding that the only reason Mictlan would be able to hunt was to use the slaves for sacrafices. That was what I got out of the whole exchange, national spell, wording or not.

You specifically said under the rule mictlan would be useless and you suggested another nation be picked.

What was said surrounding the rule allowed for no loopholes. The subsequent discussions and clarification replaces or atleast amends the rule in the first post.