What's wrong with this battle?

[Oversway]

I've read that Frozen Heart does NOT check cold resistance, but I havn't tried it myself.

On the other hand, I've never heard of astral weapon not working. Especially with one class of monsters. I'm not that suprised it doesn't work with trample, however.

I'd still have a go at the ID with your nat again. If you were going for the high def ID with luck, missing all those times could be possible.

If still no luck, you could try a couple other weapons to test the theory. The armor negating dagger (I think its 1s1d) might help. A higher attack weapon - fire sword or better yet firebrand might also help you hit.

[DominionsFan]

I think that SCs including Ice Devils are a bit overpowered in Doms 2, afaik SCs will be "nerfed" in Doms3.

[NTJedi]

I knew items which had life stealing were being nerfed, but I didn't know the SC's themselves were also being nerfed.

[shovah]

even if only lifedrain is nerfed, most sc's will take a big blow from that (which is why ive been making non life-stealing sc's/thugs lately)

[OG_Gleep]

I assume your not using CB because Bloodthorns got nerfed.

If I'm not mistaken Astral weapon isn't tied to the actaul weapon dealing dmg outside of the weapon damage, so 3x multipler for deamons is still a very good thing.

I have seen Etheral units equipped with defense + luck give magic weilding enemies fits. Its just standard for me...any melee combatant with 1s casts body eth, astral shield and astral weapon. I never cast luck personally if I am concerned about the 5 script limit. Theres 2 really cheap ways to get it, and the other buffs are either impossible to get or really expensive. And normally I never do so end up casting the same buffs.

I'd run a solo test game playing two sides, get both sides equipped the same exact way, and play with your script, then if all else fails, play with your item config. That is if your only option is your one SC vs the two ID's. Massed undead, those Angel toting flambeus etc etc.

NT Jedi - In one of the threads there was mention that there was a sift away from SC's and more towards ground pounding armies.

[magnate]

OG_Gleep said:
I assume your not using CB because Bloodthorns got nerfed.

Correct. Will try CB one day, if Dom3 doesn't come out first!

If I'm not mistaken Astral weapon isn't tied to the actaul weapon dealing dmg outside of the weapon damage, so 3x multipler for deamons is still a very good thing.

Correct again - you are quite right that higher-damage weapons would be better, but my primary concern is def. So I'll replace the mains gauches once I've forged the Summit, Stone Sword and Mage Bane ....

I have seen Etheral units equipped with defense + luck give magic weilding enemies fits. Its just standard for me...any melee combatant with 1s casts body eth, astral shield and astral weapon. I never cast luck personally if I am concerned about the 5 script limit. Theres 2 really cheap ways to get it, and the other buffs are either impossible to get or really expensive. And normally I never do so end up casting the same buffs.

I promise you, Body Ethereal is just a waste of fatigue if your opponent has magic weapons. I would usually put a coin, amulet or a Faithful on my pretender and not script Luck, but couldn't in this build.

I'd run a solo test game playing two sides, get both sides equipped the same exact way, and play with your script, then if all else fails, play with your item config. That is if your only option is your one SC vs the two ID's. Massed undead, those Angel toting flambeus etc etc.

Well, I never did get to see how well Frozen Heart works against IDs. My god, my entire army, and my 26-strong mage cadre got absolutely raped. I'm not sure if it was really the IDs that were the problem - there were 30-odd devils who made my troops rout before a single Frozen Heart got cast.

It occurs to me that it would have been very different if I'd been defending rather than attacking (breaking siege counts as "attacking", so the sieging force gets to move first). Then the FHs would have started coming a round earlier and it might have looked different.

Ho hum. Off to try and remember how to play VGAP.

CC

[Vicious Love]

magnate said:
you are quite right that higher-damage weapons would be better, but my primary concern is def. So I'll replace the mains gauches once I've forged the Summit, Stone Sword

Watch where you point that thing! Only recommended for expendable, possibly immortal commanders. Ideally ones without any other artifacts.

[shovah]

if you want mass defence/prot go: 3 main gauches, accursed shield, black steel helm/spirit helm, that air armour that gives 3 defence (and possibly mirror image) chi shoes and cat charm/ring of regen

[NTJedi]

OG_Gleep said:
I assume your not using CB because Bloodthorns got nerfed.

For both SP and MP I use both CB and Patch_only.


My comment was I recall reading that life draining weapons have been made less effective.