.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Air Command 3.0- Save $12.00
War Plan Pacific- Save $7.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 29th, 2006, 10:24 AM
Arralen's Avatar

Arralen Arralen is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 500km from Ulm
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 9
Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Arralen is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
ioticus said:
If Breath of Winter doesn't do damage anymore, what possible uses for it?
Same as before - (mostly) none.
__________________
As for AI the most effective work around to this problem so far is to simply use an American instead, they tend to put up a bit more of a fight than your average Artificial Idiot.
... James McGuigan on rec.games.computer.stars somewhen back in 1998 ...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 29th, 2006, 10:54 AM
Nerfix's Avatar

Nerfix Nerfix is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Hyvinkää, Finland
Posts: 2,703
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Nerfix is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

I'm saddened how there is no love for restricted spells or explorable magic sites.
__________________

"Boobs are OK. Just not for Nerfix [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Smile.gif[/img] ."
- Kristoffer O.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 29th, 2006, 10:55 AM

ioticus ioticus is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 529
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ioticus is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
Arralen said:
Quote:
ioticus said:
If Breath of Winter doesn't do damage anymore, what possible uses for it?
Same as before - (mostly) none.
I thought it only did damage in an area around the caster. What other effects did it have?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 29th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Graeme Dice's Avatar

Graeme Dice Graeme Dice is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,013
Thanks: 17
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Graeme Dice is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
Arralen said:
Same as before - (mostly) none.
It's currently the single best damage spell a SC can use, so I wouldn't exactly call it useless.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 29th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Nerfix's Avatar

Nerfix Nerfix is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Hyvinkää, Finland
Posts: 2,703
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Nerfix is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
Graeme Dice said:
Quote:
Arralen said:
Same as before - (mostly) none.
It's currently the single best damage spell a SC can use, so I wouldn't exactly call it useless.
Biggest source of friendly fire, too.
__________________

"Boobs are OK. Just not for Nerfix [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Smile.gif[/img] ."
- Kristoffer O.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old May 29th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Saber Cherry's Avatar

Saber Cherry Saber Cherry is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Crystal Tokyo
Posts: 2,453
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Saber Cherry is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
Arralen said:
Quote:
ioticus said:
If Breath of Winter doesn't do damage anymore, what possible uses for it?
Same as before - (mostly) none.
Considering in the last game I played, Nycafor killed about 250 units with BoW and 100 with his hands, I'd also have to join the "It was far from useless" crowd. With this change, Arch Devils (Fire Shield) might eclipse Ice Devils as the preeminant blood SCs.
__________________
Cherry
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old May 30th, 2006, 12:18 PM

Oversway Oversway is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 693
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oversway is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!


Maybe the message means it adds to chill effect and not heat effect...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old May 30th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Arralen's Avatar

Arralen Arralen is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 500km from Ulm
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 9
Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Arralen is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

The usefulness of Breath of Winter is "(mostly) none" because real, big, tough SCs are the only thing it's useful on.

In all other cases, it's only a great way to kill fellow mages or bodyguards. And sadly the spellcasting AI is too fond of the spell ...

Btw, haven't been SCs nerfed in Dom3?
__________________
As for AI the most effective work around to this problem so far is to simply use an American instead, they tend to put up a bit more of a fight than your average Artificial Idiot.
... James McGuigan on rec.games.computer.stars somewhen back in 1998 ...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old May 30th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Nerfix's Avatar

Nerfix Nerfix is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Hyvinkää, Finland
Posts: 2,703
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Nerfix is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
Arralen said:
The usefulness of Breath of Winter is "(mostly) none" because real, big, tough SCs are the only thing it's useful on.

In all other cases, it's only a great way to kill fellow mages or bodyguards. And sadly the spellcasting AI is too fond of the spell ...

Btw, haven't been SCs nerfed in Dom3?
Liferain has been, or so I've read.
__________________

"Boobs are OK. Just not for Nerfix [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Smile.gif[/img] ."
- Kristoffer O.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old May 30th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Graeme Dice's Avatar

Graeme Dice Graeme Dice is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,013
Thanks: 17
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Graeme Dice is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Promising stuff on the newest update!

Quote:
Arralen said:
The usefulness of Breath of Winter is "(mostly) none" because real, big, tough SCs are the only thing it's useful on.
Well, since SCs are what do most of your killing for most of the game, I still don't see why that's a bad thing. Compare the difference between a Niefel Jarl with and without breath of winter cast to see the difference between chill and BoW.

Quote:
In all other cases, it's only a great way to kill fellow mages or bodyguards. And sadly the spellcasting AI is too fond of the spell ...
If you are worried about mages casting it when they shouldn't, then a better change would be to make mages not cast it automatically rather than to make the spell useless.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.