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June 1st, 2006, 11:09 AM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
Ok - will add the pentropic in that time frame (but no adjustment to the AI pick, it is not nice to try to adjust the DAT files  ! - so for Humans only.
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June 1st, 2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
Added pentomic Inf Co
2xrifle section - (gives us the 2 LMG, if a bit over in man count)
4xpentomic rifle platoon
1xpentomic RCL section
1xMortar section
Added Pentomic rifle platoon
4xRifle Section (10 men each, roll the HQ in with that)
Added pentomic RCL sec
3xInf-AT
1xScout (makes up the 10 men)
- With the mortar section, that makes up the support platoon, and as a separate formation, you can place it in the rear without worries about C&C of the RCL det which will likely work up front of the coy.
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June 1st, 2006, 12:14 PM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
OK. Thanks.
With respect to the human, are you interested in the Support Coy structure. I have this for a few years, 50's through to now, light, Mech and Motor Inf.
Inf Sp Coy Pls are not quite the same as RAA equivalents.
With the Engineer tanks, why was the Grant Dozer and Matilda Dozer left out?
With teh Flame tank you only have the Matilda Frog, yet there was the Churchill Crocodile available in the same time span. It did not vanish after WWII as they really arrived at the end of the war.
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June 1st, 2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
TDR, on a seperate note, would you happen to have TO&E for SASR units for the Vietnam era? They're also left out of the OOB. I redid the RAR for my VN Pack, but wanted to include SASR as well.
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June 2nd, 2006, 12:14 AM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
SASR is a little gray. The OOB/TO&E for this is seldom as detailed.
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TDR, on a seperate note, would you happen to have TO&E for SASR units for the Vietnam era? They're also left out of the OOB. I redid the RAR for my VN Pack, but wanted to include SASR as well.
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Anyway attached pic of what I do have for 69 - 71 era. That should cover the formal issues.
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June 2nd, 2006, 12:19 AM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
Yeah, the weapon thing as noted on the picture is sketchy. I have enough pictures to work that though. So I'm getting from that breakdown that every SASR Trp (A-D) has 20 guys in it. Is that further broken down into teams and is it even? 4 5-man teams?
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June 2nd, 2006, 01:04 AM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
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Yeah, the weapon thing as noted on the picture is sketchy. I have enough pictures to work that though. So I'm getting from that breakdown that every SASR Trp (A-D) has 20 guys in it. Is that further broken down into teams and is it even? 4 5-man teams?
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The concept is several small teams. How you allocate weapons is very dependant on the operation involved.
It is possible to have a 10 man team as well, or run a Troop as a full force.
A lot will depend on how you intend to use the SASR in your scenarios.
This I suppose is the nightmare of using special units like this. If it was straight Commandos then it’s a little clearer, but the only 2 Commando units were "reserve" at that time. (using that term with care here).
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June 1st, 2006, 08:30 PM
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Re: Obat15 - Australia
There are no Grant or Matilda dozers as a) we have no info on such and b) we have no icons for such. (But see Churchill AVRE.)
Support coy structure is not really interesting, as this would be broken down and attached to rifle coys, not bought as a "lump" really. Use mortar, missile, etc platoons as required and cross-attach.
Crocodile - verified, 2 examples of supplied to Australia with the 51 other Churchills. Added.
Churchill AVRE - verified - 2 examples of supplied with the other 51 Chulrchills. Added. (Although there is a question as to whether these were petard equipped, as the issue is in doubt and the only AVRE we have (UK OOB) is petard fitted, used that)
(Several (about 3) ARV Churchills supplied or converted - but entirely irrelevant to the game)
Churchill MkVIII - "almost half" the Churchills supplied were the CS version with 95mm CSH. Added this and allowed till 72. Extended CS tank formations to 72. Added a "mixed Church Tp" with 2 infantry tank and 2 CS tank to allow for that.
Cheers
Andy
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