Abandon SE4?Opinions:Space Empires 5 screen shots?

[PvK]

I'll get SE5 and be interested to see how it turns out. I'll be continuing to play SE4 though, especially my Proportions Mod PBW games.

Some considerations:
* The SE5 graphics aren't a feature I care much about.
* I wasn't entirely happy with SE4 until the Gold version came out.
* I wasn't really happy with the way Starfury ended up.

[Black_Knyght]

One thing that bugs me is the shift in graphics format. I already liked the way SE4 works, and the ability to add new graphics to it at will was a HUGE factor in my enjoying it.

From everything I've seen the shift in graphics is more show than go. Add to that the new issue of a more complicated image system and the increased difficulty in making new shipsets for it, and I doubt I'll even bother with it. Improvements could've been made to SE4 without changing it's entire format.

[Fyron]

That's only an issue if you do not make shipsets with 3d models. Most SE4 shipset authors use 3d modeling programs anyways, so it's not that big of a deal. Atrocities might have Doga troubles, but he will adapt.

[Black_Knyght]

Imperator Fyron said:
That's only an issue if you do not make shipsets with 3d models. Most SE4 shipset authors use 3d modeling programs anyways, so it's not that big of a deal. Atrocities might have Doga troubles, but he will adapt.

While ATis certainly the best, he isn't the only DoGA user around. I've noticed that there are a lot of other sets with DoGA. I evenhave a few sets I've made and won't be able to translate over.

But above and beyond that, I'm simply not interested in "adapting" just because a newer version of the game comes out.

There are a number of games out already that have 3D models & graphics far superior to anything I've seen so far with SE5. If that was all I cared about, I wouldn't have bothered with SE4. It was the ability to readily "make it mine", mod or add to it, that I liked. You could play the game and add to it what you wanted, and you didn't need to be a computer or graphics whiz to do it.

[zircher]

Black_Knyght said:

While AT is certainly the best, he isn't the only DoGA user around. I've noticed that there are a lot of other sets with DoGA. I even have a few sets I've made and won't be able to translate over.

If you have not seen these links, they might help to show how DoGA and Metasequoia can be used together to make 3d meshes for games like Star Fury and SEV.

http://www.virmin.com/doga/design_1.htm
http://www.virmin.com/doga/design_2.htm
http://www.virmin.com/doga/design_3.htm

With a little practice, it becomes a failr simple operation.
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TAZ

[Phoenix-D]

Simple yes. Speedy..not really. DOGA meshes tend to have absolutely ridiclous polygon counts. That's fine for a render, but it'll turn any real-time display into mush.

[Captain Kwok]

Starshadow:

There is a top-down view for SE:V that's like SE:IV. I use it myself most of the time.

[Suicide Junkie]

Atrocities? Troubles??? *Might*?!

I can see it now; error beeps tip the neighbour over the edge; she goes postal, and knocks down a couple of poor Atro's outer walls. Atrocities will get screwed by the insurance company too, and have to pay for his repairs out of pocket.

[Artaud]

I just hope SE5 is not a dumbed down version of the game we know and love.

I rather like having control over most aspects of my empire. What some people call too much micromanagement is what I call fun.

[StarShadow]

Personally, I don't have high hopes for SE:V. I can't stand the research model, and I don't like the StarFury component placement. I'll give the demo a try, but I doubt I'll buy/play the full game.