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Old June 21st, 2006, 11:09 PM
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How about the New York Times for a corporate-compliant news organ? Carnivore enough? http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/04/national/04CHIC.html
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The henhouse raid in November was the second for Ms. Park, 32, and an animal advocacy group called Compassion Over Killing. Members of the group court arrest by entering chicken sheds at night and filming the rows of hens crammed 10 to a cage the size of a file-drawer cabinet. They get close-ups of swollen eyes, infected skin and shattered wings entangled in cage wire.
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Earlier this year the United Egg Producers, a trade group representing 85 percent of the country’s egg producers, issued revised guidelines in response to the complaints of animal welfare groups. The industry promised to increase gradually the size of the enclosed wire cages it uses, known as battery cages, by 30 to 40 percent; improve procedures for trimming chickens’ beaks; and figure out how to force chickens to molt, which induces them to lay more eggs, without starving them for several days.
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McDonald’s has agreed to buy eggs only from producers who do not starve their chickens to force molting and who raise them in cages of at least 72 square inches for each bird, nearly double the current United States average of 40 square inches.
Gee, that matches what those untrustworthy vegetarians said... except the vegetarians said the smallest space per chicken was 48 inches.
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It's not that the vegetarians are untrustworthy. It's the perception of bias. It's akin to getting your information on the negative effects of smoking, from the tobacco industry.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:24 AM
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It's not that the vegetarians are untrustworthy. It's the perception of bias. It's akin to getting your information on the negative effects of smoking, from the tobacco industry.
No, it would be like getting info on the negative effects of smoking, from nonsmokers.com.
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