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[Gandalf Parker]

I didnt say they killed anything. But having someone to draw fire for even one shot can mean survival for many leaders. If I have a stealth leader then I need stealth bodyguards. If I have an aquatic leader then I need aquatic bodyguards. And ethereal isnt bad to toss in also.
I havent verified the thing about strength-sap never working. I had thought it was a factor in my taking out strong units with leaders/bodyguards that wouldnt otherwise have prevailed. But I may have been wrong.

[quantum_mechani]

Gandalf Parker said:
I didnt say they killed anything. But having someone to draw fire for even one shot can mean survival for many leaders. If I have a stealth leader then I need stealth bodyguards. If I have an aquatic leader then I need aquatic bodyguards. And ethereal isnt bad to toss in also.
I havent verified the thing about strength-sap never working. I had thought it was a factor in my taking out strong units with leaders/bodyguards that wouldnt otherwise have prevailed. But I may have been wrong.

I didn't say strength sap wasn't working, only that in most cases it was a negligible effect. Against normal troops having sometimes a couple points less damage from one of them is an extremely minor effect, large summons tend to have extra str and mr to spare, and SCs most of the time use damage shields rather that strength based damage anyway.

Stealth leaders that are sneaking every other turn can't be assassinated anyway, and if they aren't normal guards will do. As for aquatic, I've said it before, the longdead from reanimation can go underwater. It is certainly true in assassination attempt even one bodyguard is usually a lot better than none... but that's a niche other things fill much better than shades.

[Gandalf Parker]

like what?

[quantum_mechani]

Almost anything you have available, most universally, national troops work fine for the purpose. Also, the longdead from reanimation are at least a somewhat better option.

If you want really want to take this debate out of vagueness, you (or someone else) could attach a savegame where you are or are planning use shades.

[Gandalf Parker]

any national troop or longdead is better than an ethereal at drawing fire? They last longer?

[Graeme Dice]

Gandalf Parker said:
any national troop or longdead is better than an ethereal at drawing fire? They last longer?

The question is not one of lasting longer, but more one of cost effectiveness. If we are dealing with assasinations, then the best defense is having so many commanders that the ones you care about aren't likely to get attacked.

[Gandalf Parker]

thats cost effective over a few death gems?