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July 11th, 2006, 09:29 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
As for the UI, I partially agree. I don't like the lower-right button-window, and I'd prefer if the end-turn button was on the lower-right of the screen.
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July 11th, 2006, 11:54 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Oh, me too.
SE4's graphics are great, IMO. They do the job of informing me about what is going on in the game, fast and efficiently. So much so that I can play it on my P-166 laptop anywhere, anytime.
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July 12th, 2006, 01:32 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
The game is still in the beta phase. SEIV Graphics are what they are... I like them, exspecially since I changed some of the base colors to green and yellow. 
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July 12th, 2006, 02:50 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
I agree, gameplay trumps graphics anytime. Hell, I still play Angband.
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July 12th, 2006, 05:03 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
The UI may not appeal to you, but as long as it is functional, and believe me that is VERY important, then I tend to agree, eye candy is not important, but nice to have.
Functionality is more important than looks. Give me function, simplistic flowing logical function over eye candy any day.
My $0.02 cents worth.
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July 12th, 2006, 09:12 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Whereas I agree wholeheartedly about graphics v gameplay neither one is mutually exclusive of the other. I love Stars! for example and I like SE4 but I dont play them anymore due to the graphics (as well as other factors). GC2 looks the part and plays pretty well also. If I have to stare at a screen for hours/days/months on end I would prefer it to be attractive rather than unattractive. I wouldnt play a 2d game and why should I these days when computer power can handle far better graphics than they could years ago?
Apart form the fact that graphics have a hell of a lot to do with immersion in a game.
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July 12th, 2006, 10:15 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
There are suprisingly large number of gamers that are really only interested in the strategic elements of the game and even put up a fuss when SE:V was moving to 3d models/star systems. I can't imagine how many e-mails MM gets complaining that the game is not 'spreadsheety' enough or is too 'spreadsheety'.
It might be of little comfort that SE:V's interface is completely moddable, including the fonts and UI elements... right now I can see how some people might not like the particular graphics style that was used.
And like I mentioned before, some hedging was done of course with the 3d models (planets, facilties, ships, terrain, etc) to keep game requirements and still allow for lots of on-screen elements at once.
Lastly, the static screenshots really make things look worse than they are - when things are moving around and exploding - it's a lot more fun.
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July 12th, 2006, 06:57 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
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Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
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July 13th, 2006, 01:27 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
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Raapys said:
Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
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July 13th, 2006, 01:28 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Well, Raapys, haha, buy a new comp u cheapo!!! If SEV hangs on to its monetary challenged playerbase with their 5 year old comps, then SEV wont ever be commercially viable. Sorry, but all a review has to do is say it has Amiga style graphics and the death knell will sound.
You peeps need to embrace 3D. I mean, I know you think a 3D Strategy Game is an oxymoron, but you're wrong. This is something that absolutely HAS to be done. I dont need to explain wahy, if you have any brains at all you already know. STFU and go buy a new computer. SEV commercially cannot hold back in the 3D dept. so you cheap bastards dont have to upgrade like evryone else. OMG.
Im sure you few hundred fans out there that swear 2D graphics are all you need will buy Amiga graphic styled SEV gameplay, but fortunately for SEV, it doesnt need you and so I hope the graphics will be up to date so the game sells.
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