OT: Counter-Terrorism is a Farce

[Atrocities]

First off, this is an insulting accusation, I have absolutely no prejudice against Jews. The fact that I don't agree with you, and I don't believe that Israel can do no wrong doesn't make me an Anti-Semite

Sorry Ren, I was speaking in general terms and not directing the comment at you personally.

[Atrocities]

Um, Hezbollah attacked them by committing a terrorist act. They have every right to respond.

I agree, Hezbollah "started it", and Israel had to respond. I'm saying their response was out of proportion to the original attack.

I tend to agree.

Did you ever experience what it was like to live in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany? No, you haven't. Yet I bet you've passed judgement on the Germans of the era for what they did there. What gives you the right to do that, if I don't have the right to judge the Israeli's and Hezbollah??

I agree that our opinions are based mostly on the facts that we do have, but honestly speaking, when most of those facts are being fed to us peacemeal through a strongly anti-israeli news media, then those facts by which we form our opinion flaw our opinion.

Our government, indeed all governments have the right to be concerned and involved in the peace process, and form a political judgement based upon the facts at hand. That is what we and many other countries have elected our governments to do. To act on our behalf in world affairs that ultimately could and will involve us politically. Our government, right or wrong, is the primary supporter of Israel and that is, above all else, why the Arab terrorists, and most Arabs in general, dislike us. They hate the jews, abo****ely 100% hate them and wish them all dead. We support Israel so the old saying, the friend of my enemy is also my enemy is the idology by which we Americans are now being condemed.

As to passing judgement on what the Germans of WWII aloud and did do to the Jews, you are correct, I have passed judgement against them. What they did, and aloud to happen, was wrong morally in so many ways that not passing judgement about the acts perpitrated against the Jews would in and of itself be criminal. That is why many Germans were tried and later executed for war crimes. The entire WORLD passed judgement upon them.

"The highest courage is to be yourself in the face of adversity, choosing right from wrong, ethics over convenience, and truth over popularity. These are the choices that measure your life. Travel the path of integrity without looking back, for thre is never a wrong time to do the right thing." - Unknown.

Yet you seem to be missing someting; I wasn't blaming Israel for everything, I said they had to share some of the blame for this most recent mess.

My apologies. Your statement here is most accurate. Israel should have been the adult here and first worked through Lebenon (sp) before invading their nation. Right of defense aside, that would have been the best political course of action.

[Randallw]

Here's an interesting story

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It seems to me that Lebanon is at least partly to blame. If terrorists in a neighbouring country are launching rockets at you and that country doesn't attempt or is unable to stop them it can only be expected you take things into your own hands.

[Glyn]

Who won the war? No one did! All sides lost more than they gained.
Stay tuned for the next war same place within a decade.


Oddly enough, Israel is probably the cause of more peace in the Middle East than war. They are strong enough that other don’t attack them lightly. They give the other Middle East groups something other than each other to focus on. Do you think for a second that if Israel suddenly disappeared that there would be peace in the Middle East?

[Renegade 13]

Atrocities said:
Sorry Ren, I was speaking in general terms and not directing the comment at you personally.

No problem Atrocities, misunderstandings happen all too frequently over the internet.