Stargate episode 200!!!

[AMF]

OK, so...is Stargate SG-1 really that good a show? I mean, it looks like it's another one of those adventure shows with a bunch of people hopping into new worlds and having new adventures but they characters are all one-dimensional, the women are weak, the men are strong, no one ever dies, everyone on the goog guy team really is a good guy, the aliens are really just humans with different skin, and there is ultimately no depth or edge to the show....etc...?

In other words...is it vanilla like Star Trek, or like Quantum Leap?

Battlestar Galactica was a phenomenal show, exactly because it wasn't like the above, and I have been interested in finding another show just as good - but I look over the SG stuff, and it looks to me like it's just a bit too clean and nice and traditional utopian sort of sci-fi.

Is it?

Just curious.

Thanks!

AMF

[Atrocities]

While the show may have lost its hard core ruggedness and its on the edge film quality appeal, replaced by hi-definition video, shorter episodes, and a sense of "where the hell are we going with this" feel, overall the show is still good and I like it.

Albeit I am not a huge fan of the current story arch, the Ori, I think its better than the alternative, cloned Baals and renagade Jaffa. Lets face it, they Trek'ed themselves in that they created technology that now takes the thrill of living on the edge away from the game. Sure its cool that Earth has space ships now, but lets face it, they lost focus of the fundamental goal of the show, the stargate. Now the show seems more like fargate and while that is not all bad, more good than bad anyways, I do miss RDA and the harder more original feel that he brought to the show. While Ben is a good actor, he is no RDA.

Sci-Fi should be bankrupted for playing games with MGM. I miss my old SG1, replaced by SG Command, and while I will continue to watch, because it is great sci-fi, I cannot help but feel that by having the show on sci-fi, too many compermises were made and it shows.

[Caduceus]

I have been watching SG-1 since about season 2 or 3 and have seen most of the episodes.

I enjoy the show, but it is somewhat trite - i.e. Trek-like - in that at the resolution of every episode we're back to square one. Everyone is alive and we're ready for next week.

The Richard Dean Anderson years were fun, but not substantially different than what we're seeing now. A story-line which moves throughout a season is the direction most shows are going. I'm not wild about the Ori, but it will be a good "capper" for the show, I think.

There's only so many "let's go through the gate from Earth while everyone is unaware of our existence" episodes you can do.

The costs of the show - MGM and probably the cast's requirements - are getting prohibitive. The show can't stand to lose Tealc, Carter, or Jackson, so they have the bargaining power in that situation.

[gregebowman]

Well, if Devlin and his partner hadn't sold the rights to Stargate and was unable to do the trilogy they had wanted to do, maybe all this would be a mute point. That's one reason I don't watch the show. Now, after the 8th or 9th season, I have no idea of what's going on so I could care less.

Speaking of Sci-fi in general, it's obvious the firm is run by suits and not a single one of them were ever a geek, nerd or trekkie. They wouldn't know what real sci-fi is if it hit them in the face. I mean, come on, no matter what the relationship with USA is, you can't be serious when you have ECW wrestling on a supposedly science fiction related show. And what's with all of these reality shows like Ghost Hunters? That's no sci-fi, or even fiction. I wish someone like Bill Gates or Steven Spielberg would buy the company and make a decent job of it. And looking at the tv guide for this week, they have the audacity to play Galactica 1980, the worse ever sequel of a tv show that ever was. Please, someone send them a clue!

[Caduceus]

Reruns of "classic" (ahem) shows are cheap, grege, that's all

And it ties in loosely to the new BSG in the hopes to draw in Sci-Fi viewers who have night jobs.

[Atrocities]

Greg, O'neil was promoted to General and put in charge of something, same with Hamond. The Jaffa have formed their own government which has twice now resulted in disaster for the Jaffa Nation. Dr. Jackson while playing around with an ancient device accidently discovered the Ori, who until Dr. Jacksons accident, didn't know our galaxy exsisted. They are now invading our Galaxy in order to convert everyone to the Ori religon. The Ori are assended beings who are at war with the Ancients. The Ancients won't help humanity defend against the Ori so we are on our own.

In the mean time, through ancient writings Dr. Jackson was able to find the lost ancient city of Atlantas and an expodisiton was sent there. It is in another galaxy filled with life sucking monsters called the Wraith.

The Replicators have been defeated, or so we think, the Gauld are gone say for a bunch of Baal Clones, and there is a pirate group running around the galaxy running a black market and doing criminal things.

Earth now has a fleet of space warships, two of which have been destoryed, one is assigned to Atlantas.

Well thats about it.

[Renegade 13]

Where was this said?

[Will]

Differences of opinion, then. All I know is that for me, any of the episodes that I happened upon in the past three or so years hasn't really been that great. I can feel the writers streching for new ways to dress up the same old stories, and when I saw the 200 episode (after this thread popped up, and I "found" a copy), I saw that the writers were aware of it too. A lot of the things they poked fun at are legitimate weaknesses in the show; the one that stands out the most clearly is the Team America parody, where they outline the stereotypical SG-1 team throughout every episode, where a "missing" character is replaced with a carbon-copy (smart-*** military guy outside typical command chain, all-American girl science genius, nerdy cultural expert, and strong, silent muscle). And you can only do so much with that before it gets to the point of you know what's going to happen in the episode just from the first five minutes.

Really, it would have been better if Daniel went to Atlantis at the start of the spin-off, and the SG-1 series just died, with occaisional references in the new series.

[Renegade 13]

From what I've gathered, 200 was intentionally poking fun at itself, which is a good thing. You need to have a sense of humor, and the fact that they still have it shows that they haven't taken themselves too seriously.

[Atrocities]

No, they said it was their jump the shark episode.