My Mictlan strategy: okay, but needs work

Agrajag · #1 September 5th, 2006, 04:05 AM

Bane Venom Charm = kills population = less population to bloodhunt O:

BigJMoney · #2 September 5th, 2006, 11:28 AM

Lol, good point. If the daggum scales would come on, I'd have my growth-3 working. I only use the venom charm to kill my enemies' castles, anyway. Speaking of which, what the flip fo you guys do when someone(s) stealthy with bane venom charms come knocking on your door in MP? It seems there isn't much someone can do. I kinda wish the AI would use them, because it would be a nasty trick.

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shovah · #3 September 5th, 2006, 03:05 PM

When you notice a bane-venom charm in your territorys? Patrol like mad with your huge masses of slaves and flying demons. In any province (preferably low income) with 5000+ pop get 3 lvl 1 blood mages, give them all dousing rods, set tax to zero and make them all hunt. Very efficent blood hunting. F9 isnt a requirement but it is immensly powerful, try f9, b4, d4 (minor fear rocks+you get vampires) with a decent dominion (atleast 6) and try to get 1 growth (maybe heat 1, growth 1, sloth 2, order 2).

BigJMoney · #4 September 5th, 2006, 04:46 PM

Thanks for all the tips everyone. I'll use these suggestions in my next game, though I'm still very enamored with the idea of a Dominion Powerhouse Mictlan strategy. I'm thinking maybe I can get away with bringing Dominion down to 8, scales down a bit, no astral, and going for a better war setup. Then, maybe after I've taken 35%-50% of the world, I'll shift focus to making money and cranking out temples and priests. At that point, I'll try to use expensive priests in every territory to make 3 sacrifices a turn...that's the equivalent of 3 temples in every territory. Even late game, with a serious deficit in Dominion, I should be able to turn things around.

I'll still keep everyone posted on how my current game is going if things start turning out more like I had originally planned.

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shovah · #5 September 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM

you can, iirc make better sacrifices than that. A high priest of the sun (holy 4) with a jadeknife rocks, make one your prophet if you really wana push it.

Wick · #6 September 5th, 2006, 10:46 PM

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BigJMoney said:
Lol, good point. If the daggum scales would come on, I'd have my growth-3 working.

This may be obivious but you do know that Mictlan's Dominion doesn't spread, right?

Frostmourne27 · #7 September 6th, 2006, 01:27 AM

Ummm... Doesn't spread? Mictlan God, and their temples don't spread dominion, but Blood Sacrifices do, and I think prophets and juggernaughts do. I'm not sure if their capitol does. Mictlan probably wont be winning through dominion killing, but blood sacrificing is powerful enough to make your dominion 'safe' from enemy dominion, and to get your scale benefits (except perhaps buggy growth 3

) I certainly find that I can do ok in dominion terms, and I think thats a fairly common sentiment, though if victory was set to dominion I probably wouldn't play Mictlan.

BigJMoney · #8 September 6th, 2006, 12:40 PM

...and that's what I'm hopefully going to prove wrong.

I'm telling you, the numbers say that Mictlan is the best possible late game Dominion spreader, bar-none. With the capability of having at least 3 temples per province (more with a better economy and magic items, but I'm trying to be conservative), I think it's just waiting to be discovered. It's funny; when I first read about Mictlan after buying this game a good while ago, I immediately thought, "Wow, the purpose of this Nation is purely for spreading Dominion." I was very surprised to see that everyone's strategy with them had nothing to do with Dominion killing.

Of course, the difficult part is making it to that late game in a position where you can win.

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PS -- According to the Dominion Spreading Bible, the prophet does not spread Dominion for Mictlan. He'd have to make sacrifices, too. My guess is that Juggs don't, either.

Agrajag · #9 September 6th, 2006, 01:48 PM

Bear in mind that to "have 3 temples per province" you'll also need to blood hunt every* province, and set the taxes to minimal in every* province.
The gratitious blood sacrifices would also be probably better spent on uberkilling mass murdering demons, or maybe a soul contract or a hundred...

Me, I'd rather have one Devil every turn than 40 temple checks.

* - well... most.

shovah · #10 September 6th, 2006, 02:29 PM

Actally your wrong, any-one, with enough of an economy can outspread mictlan because of 1 little fact: They can have multiple priests working per province. I agree they caan spread dominion well but, imo other races do it better (and cheaper)