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		| Cainehill said:No Carrion Woods?  Now I'm glad I didn't pre-order - making CW a global (taking a global spot, capable of being dispelled/over-ridden, requiring massive research and gems) instead of a nation of a darker shade of green just sucks.   
 |  You won't like this, then. There is no Soul Gate as its own nation. It's also initiated with a great ritual. Ashen Empire has to research Conjuration to become Soul Gate. There all kinds of nifty goodies in here, like spells for summoning multiple Wailing Ladies or Lictors at once. 
   
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 So lemme get this straight - casting Soul Gate overrides the Ashen Empire effect, beginning to generate spirits instead of corporeal undead? 
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		| okiN said: So lemme get this straight - casting Soul Gate overrides the Ashen Empire effect, beginning to generate spirits instead of corporeal undead?
 
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 Err... I don't remember troop production ever stopping for me when playing AE. Last I checked, longdead don't need fresh corpses to come popping out of the ground, which can easily lead to four-figure armies if the game is long enough and Ermor is left to its own devices. Unless something's been changed, I expect it'd be a tad overpowering with the addition of the Soul Gate effect.  
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 Perhaps Carrion Woods and Soul Gate can be restored through modding. 
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		| Nerfix said: Perhaps Carrion Woods and Soul Gate can be restored through modding.
 
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 Hmm, sounds like an unelegant solution. =/
 I must say that from what I've gathered the late era sounds pretty disapointing, some things like Dreamlands excluded...
 
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		| Endoperez said: 
 Hey, you got one Ermor commander already! So, what about another undead commander? Hmm, or perhaps another Early Ermorian mage.
 
 
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