What is really new?

DominionsFan · #1 September 18th, 2006, 05:35 PM

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Yeah, I guess. However imho the real power in Dominions is the MP. You and your boddies are getting together at a given day for a TCP/IP match. Its still hella addictive.

Hm usually we play 1-3 TCP/IP games / week still. We've played every day like 1 year ago.

I've got pretty much the same experience as Nerfix: I like the game, but at some point, I know the game so well I don't have any reason to play through all the options again. As you might've seen from my posts, I haven't tried most of the nations, spell or strategies in Dom3. Having a group of people nearby who know and play the game would be wonderful. I'll have to try borrowing the manual to some of my friends; that could work.

Yeah Endo, playing with people who you know in real life is the best MP experience. However I hope that I can play TCP/IP games with you and with the other people from this forum. I will spare some time for it. I've talked to the Dominion fans here, they also like the idea to play with/against people from other countries. Hopefully we can set up some games on sundays at least for the European players.

Endoperez · #2 September 18th, 2006, 05:38 PM

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DominionsFan said:Yeah Endo, playing with people who you know in real life is the best MP experience. However I hope that I can play TCP/IP games with you and with the other people from this forum. I will spare some time for it. I've talked to the Dominion fans here, they also like the idea to play with/against people from other countries. Hopefully we can set up some games on sundays at least for the European players.

That'd be nice. My only experience thus far is one blitz against Quantum. It lasted most of the night and ended with my army on his capital and his in mine. I had this most wonderful SC who conquered few provinces, attacked quantum and died, was recalled, attacked Quantum and died, etc.

DominionsFan · #3 September 18th, 2006, 05:43 PM

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DominionsFan said:Yeah Endo, playing with people who you know in real life is the best MP experience. However I hope that I can play TCP/IP games with you and with the other people from this forum. I will spare some time for it. I've talked to the Dominion fans here, they also like the idea to play with/against people from other countries. Hopefully we can set up some games on sundays at least for the European players.

That'd be nice. My only experience thus far is one blitz against Quantum. It lasted most of the night and ended with my army on his capital and his in mine. I had this most wonderful SC who conquered few provinces, attacked quantum and died, was recalled, attacked Quantum and died, etc.

Hehe.

Well guess what. My longest Doms 2. TCP/IP game was more then 10 hours long. 8 players on a large map. It was insane. The funny thing is that 3 players were alive by then from the 8, and we just couldnt kill eachother, so we've decided that the game was won by 3 people.

Well that was a crazy game, 8 player TCP/IPs are usually ~4 hours long for us.

BigJMoney · #4 September 18th, 2006, 05:50 PM

It sounds like it was ~4 hours long.... for the losers.

That's one good thing about TBS games. If it starts to drag on or lose its excitement just let yourself get dominated, leave early, and go join another game.

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AAshbery76 · #5 September 18th, 2006, 06:32 PM

What is the single player experience? Is there any diplomacy,trade,Alliances,etc.From reading the AAR's it just seems a game of declare war on everybody,and not a true 4X game like SEIV,MOM,etc.

DominionsFan · #6 September 18th, 2006, 06:46 PM

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What is the single player experience? Is there any diplomacy,trade,Alliances,etc.From reading the AAR's it just seems a game of declare war on everybody,and not a true 4X game like SEIV,MOM,etc.

Singeplayer AI will be much better in Doms 3. Impossible AIs will give you a hard time to win, especially on larger maps. There isn't any diplo functions in Doms 3., however you can set up alliances before the game quite easily. [some very easy modding commands]. That way you can make excellent scenarios.
I think its not a bad thing, that we won't have diplo AI in Dominions 3. I mean take a look at Galciv2. The diplo AI is absolutely exploitable, just like any other diplo AI. [You send money, money and more money and voila they will like you.]

Twan · #7 September 18th, 2006, 06:54 PM

Like in dom2 there will be no diplomacy in SP, it's true. Dominions is more a wargame than most "true" 4X.

But the question here is "what is really new ?" not "what is not new ?".
Of course hundreds of player's expected features won't be in this game, like in any sequel of any game (since MoO 3

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st.patrik · #8 September 18th, 2006, 07:17 PM

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AAshbery76 said:
What is the single player experience? Is there any diplomacy,trade,Alliances,etc.From reading the AAR's it just seems a game of declare war on everybody,and not a true 4X game like SEIV,MOM,etc.

well you are playing a god, and gods typically want to be worshipped by everyone, so it's hard to get away from the world-domination thing.

Endoperez · #9 September 18th, 2006, 07:56 PM

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What is the single player experience? Is there any diplomacy,trade,Alliances,etc.From reading the AAR's it just seems a game of declare war on everybody,and not a true 4X game like SEIV,MOM,etc.

well you are playing a god, and gods typically want to be worshipped by everyone, so it's hard to get away from the world-domination thing.

In other words, there's no diplomacy, but we've gotten used to it. You can, too. The game is very enjoyable even as-is. Also, AI start on passive state, and only become aggressive when they notice that you are weak, or when you attack them. That must be the simplest form of diplomacy ever seen!

One other common explanation is the fact that it'd take too much of the developers' time, "and we all would rather have more content, wouldn't we?"