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[Q]

What is then the advantage of the special weapons if I have to destroy first both shields and armor??

[Ed Kolis]

Not much, unless you are into capturing ships relatively intact...

[Captain Kwok]

Q said:
What is then the advantage of the special weapons if I have to destroy first both shields and armor?

That's why I suggested below it needs to use the penetration entries first in the damagetypes.txt before skipping to the special type ability...

[RonGianti]

I like the idea that special weapons have to get through shields (and sometimes armor) before they will work.

All it really means is that you also need to research shield depleting weapons and include them, in addition to your "special weapon"

Most weapons don't skip shields and armor, why should the special weapons?

[Captain Kwok]

It's really for gameplay reasons that special weapons should be able skip at least armor in many situations. If not, the weapons will be less useful because if you've already taken out the defenses and a normal weapon would likely destroy all the weapons on the target ship during the next volley anyway. So it doesn't make it practical to keep slow re-loading and limited use weapons it that case.

[Phoenix-D]

Special weapons have to get the armor down. But the Toxin Injector isn't a special weapon and it is supposed to skip shields and armor.

[Ed Kolis]

There is a "Burn Armor" damage type which damages only armor, complementing the "Shields Only" type; I don't know if any stock weapons use it.

[Captain Kwok]

Ed Kolis said:
There is a "Burn Armor" damage type which damages only armor, complementing the "Shields Only" type; I don't know if any stock weapons use it.

It's used by the "Alloy Burner Missile" available in the Temporal tree. And no I did not name it...

[Captain Kwok]

Phoenix-D said:
Special weapons have to get the armor down. But the Toxin Injector isn't a special weapon and it is supposed to skip shields and armor.

Oops - that's right. "Kills Crew" is not an only type.