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Old October 7th, 2006, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: Pretender, awake, dormant or imprisoned?

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Eh dragons seem to suck maybe, but Kiss and Caine, keep in mind the doubled research costs and how difficult it is to get your 2nd castle.

So the dragon is i think the only pretender that can go on expansion on turn 2.

Nope. Not even close, even looking only at the pretenders available in the demo's five nations. Wyrm, Mother of Monsters, Drakaina, Manticore, possibly Father of Serpents, Destroyer of Worlds, White Bull, Earth Momma.

Some may not be perfect for turn 2 - but by turn 4 or 5, definately. (And I've had a Wyrm take 15 provinces by turn 20.)
Hm the wyrm has low protection. Only 11, and only 8 defense. So you need to buff him with at least BE and personal luck imho. But any buff adds encumberance, and unless you have a damage shield the wyrm only kills 2 enemies a turn.
And he costs more than a dragon because you have to buy him at least 1 magic path.

Read what I said about my Wyrm taking 15 provinces. That was with indies _6_, and no magic paths. No items until turn 10 or so, when I researched Construction and got some things on him. "Only" killing 2 enemies a turn wasn't a problem, given that the defenders break morale.

Frankly, I didn't expect him to do so well, but figured it didn't matter much if he died. Spent about 2 turns healing him with priestesses, and other than that, used only a single "trick" to help him do so well. Again, I suspect a number of other pretenders could do nearly as well, certainly as well as the dragon once you equip them with a few items or research a few turns.
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