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November 5th, 2001, 07:59 PM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
It's an interesting topic to me. I have access to a dozen or more races and half a dozen 3d modellers as part of the Fire on the Suns universe/team. Greg Ellis, who is the originator of the game, will probably insist on copyright statements and want to include a licensing statement that any given race set can only be distributed as a whole set unless written permission has been granted.
It wouldn't stop casual usage, but it would protect Greg's 'properties' in the case that his races were used for commercial purposes in violation of the copyright or license. [Unlike a trademark, he has the option to pursue or not pursue a violation without losing his rights.]
In case I missed it, does Malfador/Hall have any restrictions or license issues that Greg or should be concerned about?
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November 5th, 2001, 11:05 PM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
if someone likes a shipset I create- then I am honored if they find it good enough to use, copy etc...
IMO: If you post images you have to assume and accept that those images may get copied, used, abused etc...Posting images on the web for the world to see and then expecting to keep people from using them is unrealistic, copy right laws or not.
I agree with the comments regarding etiquette , being polite and letting the owner know etc...
[This message has been edited by AJC (edited 05 November 2001).]
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November 6th, 2001, 03:19 AM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
At first it kinda upset me that images that I had gathered were being used without any credit going to me or the ship set they came from. But ultimately, it was up to me to post my sets, with the information that any of the images used in them that were one of a kind, prior to my public release of those ship sets, came from my set if seen else where. To that end, I also stated that if my ship images were used, IE they came from any of my sets, and yes I will know, then I asked that credit for the image be given to that set. (EXAMPLE: Escort Frigate, and Base ship from Atrocities ship sets: Borg, Dominion, Ferengi. )
Past that, I have no prob. I have no prob if someone emails me and asks if I mind they use the set. That has happened in nearly 80% of the cases were my images, IE Species 8472, the Breen, Dominion, Cardassian, and many others have been used. To those people, I say thank you, and best of luck.
Deathstalker, by all means, you have helped me out so much with tips, ideas, AI, and other that you can use any image in my library without asking.
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November 6th, 2001, 03:48 AM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
Well, I haven't played PBW with humans at all yet, and I don't make my own shipset stuff yet. I have one from that Universal Ship Yards on Tripod.com unmodified, and when applicable I fully agree with giving credit to the creator, where ever and whenever you are supposed to do this.
But my 2 cents are this... if you post it anywhere on the web so others have access to it, you are immediately allowing its use in part or whole to anyone else. Password it and/or don't post it if you don't want it used.
Of course, like I said for the one I'm using, the people using it in part/whole still DEFINITELY should give credit to creator/owner of sets/images.
Just my 2 cents.
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November 6th, 2001, 10:26 PM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
Another problem I find with shipsets in PBW is redundant ones:
Sometimes people use shipsets with only the main color changed or the population portrait. If we don't wan't those players change pics every turn we must install the redundant shipset... and that can be a problem with a 4Gb HDD!
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November 6th, 2001, 10:53 PM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
quote: Originally posted by President Delerith:
Another problem I find with shipsets in PBW is redundant ones:
Sometimes people use shipsets with only the main color changed or the population portrait. If we don't wan't those players change pics every turn we must install the redundant shipset... and that can be a problem with a 4Gb HDD!
Agree.
In my view, the redundancy is the only problem that I can see with the shipsets in PBW.
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November 6th, 2001, 11:13 PM
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Re: PBW Shipset Etiquette
I think the worst part of posting something you created is that someone else takes it, modifies it, and makes it WORSE.
Maybe it's the graphic artist in me, but it's just a tragedy at that point. :/
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