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October 11th, 2006, 12:14 AM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
With dormant/imprisioned gods, u r losing yr most powerful source of dominion. U only have yr capital + 1 temple at game start, a prophet, 1 or 2 turns later. This is ok for a person, playing Dom 3, u can plan for it, build temples, recruit priests and preach. So no problem from the players point of view.
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The AI needs to be changed, so it can avoid dominion death early on from taking low dominion, using dormant/imprisioned god strategy and taking bad scales. Seen several AI's at normal/difficult level getting nowhere due to lack of domonion and/or poor scales. The AI needs improvement in this area and hopefully the developers will look at it in a future patch.
The AI overall when it gets going is giving me a good challenge, at normal/difficult level. So I am happy with it so far.
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October 11th, 2006, 01:17 AM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
I wonder if this is one of the reasons Mictlan was a pushover in DomII, but it was never this extreme because their pretender was at least around to spread a little dominion. I can't say for sure, though. I have no idea how good the AI is at blood sacrifice. It make simply be that Mictlan will never make a good AI opponent. It's like how Ermor makes too good an AI opponent.
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October 11th, 2006, 02:04 AM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
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I wonder if this is one of the reasons Mictlan was a pushover in DomII, but it was never this extreme because their pretender was at least around to spread a little dominion.
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If Mictlan is anything like in Dom 2 (still have only the demo of Dom3) it would make a poor AI opponent even if they could manage their dominion, since it takes a good blessing strategy, effective use of blood blood magic, or probably both, to do well with Mictlan. The AI doesn't really handle those well (or maybe at all).
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October 11th, 2006, 03:36 AM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
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If Mictlan is anything like in Dom 2
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Well yes and no. In one lets-test-this-pretender-game I played to turn 10 or so I noticed only one AI nation out of six keeping up with me in province count: Mictlan. On the other hand, computer apparently can't handle blood sacrifices since while every other nation's dominion score had increased during the game, Mictlan's had flatlined to the starting dominion of one. Easy pushover unless the god awakens in time.
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October 10th, 2006, 05:53 PM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
Anyways guys, all of you who want AI improvements must be patient if you ask me. [also the modders must be patient] I think that the first 1-3 patches will totally focus on bugfixing. So please, don't even start to "whine" when you won't see AI improvements in those patches, don't forget that only 2 devs are working on this game, and they don't have that much time to add new things, if there are lot of bugs, because bugfixing is always on the top on the priority list.. Not to mention that the devs cannot work on the game 24/7, since they have a job also. 
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October 16th, 2006, 10:27 AM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
Mictlan just bit the dust on turn 5 of my game as well. 
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October 16th, 2006, 03:13 PM
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Re: Huh? AI implodes on turn 5, please tell me why
Yeah, saw that happen too in one recent game. That was my one game with a "medium random map" and many AIs (since I still have only the demo, I tend to use small maps).
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