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October 13th, 2006, 07:40 AM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
That was Ai vs Ai vs Ai, with all Ais of all ages smashed together. Oceania did better than Ermor or R'lyeh etc in multiple test runs. Gandalf didn't find out exactly what happened, but the AI works very well with them.
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October 13th, 2006, 02:48 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
Incidentally, regarding insanity, it is possible to drive an enemy pretender seriously insane through the use of Void Spirits. A Jomon Master Lich had an insanity score over 70 through prolonged stay of a single Void Spirit in the Jomon capital.
I don't know whether it was permanent over rebirth ala Curse, 'tho, as his nation completely collapsed shortly after I killed him once, in my dominion.
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October 13th, 2006, 03:41 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
*ahem* it's Void Spectre. 
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October 13th, 2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
I am enjoying MA Mictlan a lot. I won't explain why because I have a feeling most people on this board have no idea how ridiclously amped up the lil' tribals are now. I love them, especially since I have the option to play without blood. I've never been good at handling blood magic, and I am afraid that Mictlan's lower level priests will suck at blood sacrificing, so I go with MA where they don't do any of that stuff! Oh yeah, and that means a Mictlan option with no micro!
I also liked playing with MA Ulm a little just to see how much better their new sprites are. I'm not sure summoning bears and dire wolves has really made them competitive yet, though. Espeically with MA Caelum Cold-3 having heavier infantry (tht can fly, or are holy!) with lower encumbrance and magic weapons.
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October 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
In the Early Era there is already about 8 nations that I absolutely want to try in MP! I'm a big fan of nature/poison nations (I miss the Pythian serpent Cult).
I like Early Pangaea. I want to mass lamiahs with an imprisoned N9 Mother of monsters but but I'm not sure its a good idea:
-I plan to cast them only with MoM, so I dont really use the N4 Pans for summonning.
-Even with mass protection lamiahs alone arent so powerful outside GoH dominion (I doubt they'll match the mid-game rush of N9 Bless Niefel Giants & Jarls).
For theses reasons I think I'll use lamiahs with sauromatia, (hydra + lamiahs). I really like the pans but honestly dont really know how to use them effectively with a N5+ prentender (other than VO summonning or locust swarm spamming).
I should try Charm + penetration items in MP:
charm(N3) charm charm charm reinvigoration(B1)
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October 13th, 2006, 06:29 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
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I am enjoying MA Mictlan a lot. I won't explain why because I have a feeling most people on this board have no idea how ridiclously amped up the lil' tribals are now. I love them,
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I love that Lord of Night pretender. A titan that is a stealthy flying assassin? And can summon aid during the assassination? Even un-equiped he can take out nearly any commander. There has to be a blitz-game tactic in that.
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October 13th, 2006, 06:25 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
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That was Ai vs Ai vs Ai, with all Ais of all ages smashed together. Oceania did better than Ermor or R'lyeh etc in multiple test runs. Gandalf didn't find out exactly what happened, but the AI works very well with them.
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True. But it appears to be about as good as any judgement until we have enough people proficient at each nation to be able to test it with players. I was surprised by it also. I considered it luck and kept running the tests. Apparently with a single minded AI on all of the nations, thats how it played out so something is there.
Its really not beneficial at this point for someone to say that any nation is a power nation since we all know that the power in Dominions is "player method" + "good nation match" = "power". Someone saying Ermor is powerful at this point might only mean that person plays Ermor better than they do other nations.
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October 14th, 2006, 05:59 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
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I was surprised by it also. I considered it luck and kept running the tests. Apparently with a single minded AI on all of the nations, thats how it played out so something is there.
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Doesn't surprise me. One of the first games I played was the Silent Seas map (EA) with the three water nations & AI C'tis (I was playing Argatha). Was a close run thing, with the water nations proving to be the most challenging opponents (Atlantis was the worst of the three, but they had managed to drive a wedge between me and Oceania, so I had few encounters with Oceania until they'd managed to drive the Atlantians back).
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October 14th, 2006, 06:30 PM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
Ironically in an EA random map I was playing last night with all EA nations, Oceania was the first to go, and a very fast death it was!
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October 16th, 2006, 05:26 AM
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Re: Favorite nations so far?
Currently in love with EA arcosphale...
Running some sick games with bless/thug strategy, with different flavors based on scale choice (production being the main, such a hard choice given moderately resource intensive units on one hand, and philosopher research scale on the other... I think I am leaning towards sloth for better other scales/research, though that sort of puts me at the mercy of starting position)
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